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I remember them from Affliction, why do you think so?

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it ^^

Glad you like it, Tried to get as much info as I could find, Haven't been this excited for a game in a long while

Its a work in progress as shown in the next stream it's already in a decent spot, I was just missing core things like AG and spectres which were big damage multipliers. Even if the build does not pan out as I expect it was fun setting it up and trying off meta minions

They're awesome, I've had alot of fun with them this league and will probably league start them going forward

We all know PoB is the real game XD

I dropped your perandus pact because it was only giving you 150 life, and passives giving % do the same thing. But also, hard to fit pathing to that on this set up because I some other things. I had to drop your sword for the ascendency because we just can't fit all the gems you want without sadly

I'll take a look, but yeah the sword becomes the weakest link if the PoB is tweaked enough. Though I dont think I want to get rid of it for envy(Aul's Envy is an option but then the 8th Link would be gone)

So there's a few things I noticed, you tried to fit spell suppress into the gear which is not a bad idea but makes it way more suffix starved, so much so you opt for honoured tattoo of the sky to supplement, but this tattoo is no longer in the game along with other honoured tattoos. you also went immutable force on the jewel which is a pretty good idea but chance to avoid stun can also be fit on a ghastly jewel and in the darkness enthroned giving near stun immunity if under 50% and a ghastly can replace immutable. Also by dropping Uul Netol's the dps tanked very hard

Also the max hits of the none spell suppress version were higher, even for spells which is quite interesting. The gloves also got kinda messed up somehow in the new PoB with 4 implicits but fixed it. Overall I dont think I can justify the addition of spell suppress especially considering the crafting costs it adds Edit: Just figured out why, in PoB spell suppress does not increase max hit until you cap it, before then it only increases eHP

So with aggressive wand behavior, in my testing it is not too noticeable as they target enemies far away and will just keep similar behavior as they have now, The biggest difference is they will start attacking enemies slightly faster than you walk up to them but they will still on average be behind you firing. TLDR: not worth the investment in defilers For the Storm brand we use it to "hit" the enemy frequently for unnerve on hit, exposure on hit etc it can be replaced with any other spells that hit alot like ball lightning(not as effective)

I think the fall damage feel decent yet inconsistent, I've fallen from heights that wouldve previously killed me and they did single digits damage, but also fallen from places that I would expect to do single digit damage which instantly one shots me.

I made that PoB before I found out Perandus Pact's radius so I did not want to include it just in case it was weak, but thanks for the reminder, I'll update the PoB in the description with one

pobb.in/Wj1TM87qe97d There you go

@@dconnic nice, thx for updating it!

You're welcome

Yeah the buff from leader just is not worth the hassle of keeping it alive

Thanks for the suggestion, took a look at them but I'm not a fan of their low life, they will end up dying in juiced content pretty often which is unideal

@@dconnic in a pure spectre situation yea they kind of suck, but I've used them a few times in various minion army type builds, when I was looking for fire damage.

I'll keep them in mind, would be fun to see them using chain. If youre in a fire army situation you should check out tukohama vanguard from act 6 I think... they apply 25% fire exposure

I am not 100% sure what you mean so if I'm answering the wrong question feel free to clarify, but if you mean how do I have my energy shield recgenerating, that is through leech ascendency "Bone Barrier" being applied to Energy Shield, with the help of instant leech Mastery it fills very quick

@@dconnic That's exactly what it was about. I forgot to do 4lvl ascendency ^^” Now the shield works as it should. Thank you for your reply

Ah that makes sense, glad I could help ^^

+2 level to spectre boots are pretty easy overall to craft I would say if you dont care too much about how much ES you get from them, they are just on the expensive side because of the materials for fairly deterministic steps like Veiled orbs and orb of dominance etc Edit: if you do care about how much ES then your best bet would be gravecrafting ES fractured influenced boots and we all know how that mechanic can be

Yeah it does, I have come to the conclusion that you only want to use 2... maybe 3 ravagers but definitely not more as you will have too many geysers just not being useful

It can drop lower than Ilvl 83 but not higher

I would not recommend using chain+return, instead if you want to use chain use that alongside a damage support like "controlled destruction", Return is best used with pierce so it goes through the target and hits them again on the way back. To answer your single target dps question the highest damage setup would involve using white sockets so you can swap pierce + return with controlled destruction/minion damage( whichever you do not have in your setup usually) and lightning penetration support so it will look something like Raise Spectre + Spell Echo + Controlled Destruction + Minion Damage + Lightning penetration + Predator

@@dconnic thx for the quick reply. I'll try it when I get correct sockets, its not easy to get white socket this league...

The easiest way I have found to get white sockets is to use an omen of blanching, it can give up to 3 white sockets which should be enough for all the off colors for the defilers

Thanks^^

So the 7-8L gloves are kinda tricky. I think they have potential but the amount of investment that it would require to make it worth going is wayyyyy past the average players budget(probably around a mirrors worth or slightly more) vs the amount of damage we get by scaling their non crit damage

Immortal call is good, the only reason I'm hesitant for it is we don't have a source of steady endurance charges to make it truly shine.

Yeah, I have since increased it to 5k after upgrades, wanted to showcase this budget as +1 spectre chest can be pricier

The easiest way is to ask on global 6666 for someone to share, if youre ssf however you can find them by either running "invasive adversaries" keystone and running into them randomly or running t17 maps

I mean, youre free to ignore the fact that I mention that my crafts were not complete for defences so I had a low ES pool and that the only damage modifier my weapon had was +1 all gem, yet can still clear t16 content with ease

Interesting, I wonder why some would not return though, was it the nature of the anoint or the skill is weird

Lol, I said "and subscribe"

@@dconnic i heard un subscribe too. i think it was the emphasis

I can hear how it does sound like that

@@dconnic subbed anyways xD

I appreciate you ^^

Thank you^^

Thank you^^

Im using it for T16 expeditions and Betrayal currently, I imagine its pretty good at other strategies like Abyss, beyond, blight. No Idea how it would perform for legion but with their far shot projectiles probably better than other minion types

Is actually the best spectre for a full spectres build? I mean. The spiders?

There could be better ones that have not been found but these are the best that I know of currently

I keep wondering how the 'boss' specters everyone was excited for are, I've heard nothing on it. I might switch to this, I was using GazzTV's spell suppression version and it just doesn't feel right for me, I have always wanted to try a CI build so maybe I'll give this a shot once I gather some gear to swap.

You mean "boss" like good spectres or spectres for bossing specifically? cause for immobile bosses the storm conduits could be geared for that in my opinion with really good success

Those are the flask throwers right? How do they feel also did you do some umbilicus dying sun tech to give them extra proj

@@dconnic that and bottled faith are next but the helmet had to be the first buy lol. They have been a blast so far tbh. Can’t wait for awakened aoe too lol

I have a video up on my channel of them prior to helmet. It was insane prior now it’s a blast lol

I'll check it out, one big positive of umbilicus now is that with leech the flask pressure necromancers had is much lower

@@dconnic yes sir very good points. Figuring out how to make the belt work has been a blast too lol

The Wretched Defilers use a base lightning damage spell so there is no physical damage to convert to chaos. Only way to use chaos on them would be adding chaos damage from other sources like Envy aura

Thats a bit hard to say as we have no PoB numbers to even theorize what their endgame damage numbers would look like, I will say they have good damage potential and if you get their damage high enough chain might allow you to clear legions as pierce setup wont have as much horizontal coverage, that said minions are typically not the greatest at legion

I thought about wraithlord+ squire to boost them. But EK Ignite or kinetic blast(CF) maybe better scaling

That was definitely my first impression but its possible it could be more dps by going 9L gloves because you can give them flat crit, combined with other sources of flat crit you could get their crit chance to a decent spot and with how fast they attack theres a chance they scale as high, but I imagine the investment would be more than with EK/KB

But i think EK Ignite ( Dot DPS Overall) is capped at around 36 Million right? Can u recommend a build with one Button playstyle with infinite scaling? I would Like to semi AFK farm blight but also BE able to deli Farm ^^

There is a law of the wilds minion build someone I trust on the summoner discord made that only has one button(cyclone) and has really high damage potential. I'll get a link to his showcase and edit this comment Edit: th-cam.com/video/VXMUobRRQrQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TDEs9dA-izXH-3rP Keep in mind this was last league but he has made early game PoBs for this league and last I checked was working on the late game For semi afk blight, The closest for that would either be a zoomancer/spectre build as they focus more on permanent minions. I do know zoomancer uses vaal skele so it would require that button press and I dont quite know if it gets to the level of no tower blight though. For spectres we'll have to see the endgame potential of the new spectres but defilers seem to be the most consistent

Sure, You get 3 by getting up to Raise spectre level 25(1,13,25), 1 from passive tree node "Death attunement". 1 from a chestpiece modifier exclusive to delve 4 from the Wraithlord unique helmet with 4 Ghastly eye jewels equipped in them

Wretched Defilers join global 6666 and ask for them :)

Thanks

You mean for your extra spectre? or for links?. Linkwise there are no good alternative red gems for these spectres so you would have to opt for a go for a 5B 1G chest till youre able to get it For getting to 25 for the extra spectre I personally opted for level 20 self leveled spectre, Unique boots for +1, rare wand with +1, rare helm with +1 and self leveled empower (with betrayal gem exp and 20 qual) Edit: you could use either lightning pen or elemental focus for the extra blue socket

Really glad the video helped, and you're enjoying them ^^

yup the pierce/return proj is great.missing the empower atm. im realy low budged :) @@dconnic

There really isnt a budget way to get the extra spectre but if I had to say the absolutely cheapest without needing to buy a level 1 empower and level(this is pretty cheap if you do betrayal) +1 Shield, +1 Helmet, +1 wand, level 6 seperate Raise spectres in off weapon slot to corrupt for level 21, Unique boots

Yeah it will, its a good swap for single target but bad for clear so it has to be a swap, i also find without extra proj from lmp/gmp monsters move out too quick with low budget setup at least

I mean if you cant find the cluster you either replace it with something else or use extra points in HP/ES to go for a clusters with vicious bite. Its not do or die🤷‍♂️

@@dconnic Brother. It is impossible to roll Vicious Bite and Primordial Bond on one cluster jewel. Only way to get those two on one jewel is Megalomaniac.

Really? Thats interesting. Thanks for the heads up, I'll update the PoB

@@dconnic Yep. Two prefix notables and only one suffix notable per large cluster jewel. Both VB and PB are suffixes.

Never knew that was a thing, Updated the PoB now (ironically higher damage numbers) But tried to make up the difference in HP through Tattoos, Also switched some aura effect tattoos for minion life because Preachers are on the squishier side

Theres a single reason I didnt put them in gloves, I dont like the idea of not being able to unsocket slower proj, it is very very bad for clearing, I am still looking at the glove slot though, so far when I adjust for gloves it comes out with a net dps loss but I think there's a way and I will find it XD.

Its there to apply on hit effects from the glove (exposure and unnerve)

@@dconnicIn the budget version, is it Triad Grip you end up using? If so, should all the links on the glove be blue sockets?

Yeah we go for 4 blue triad grip to convert phys minions like zombies convert to lightning

Not a bad idea, You would have to sacrifice some damage by maybe removing an enlighten and/or generosity to fit that as theyre the most removable from a single item

If you can get CB immunity on a jewel that would be better than one bleed immunity jewel, I'll probably add that Thanks. The good thing though is this build while fighting now very resilient to DoTs because of leech+instant leech

UPDATE: Increased DPS, Reduced expense of spell suppress crafts at the cost of ~9% effective spell suppress(you can still go for the more expensive craft I just dont want to recommend it), Fixed chaos res a bit, Added Corrupted Blood immunity corrupt pobb.in/sJc5Kgu9j5QL

I have not tested this but Its probably a safe bet to think thats how it would work

Yeah, and its quality increases max spectres, so in theory, you can get many many crit capped minions asides your 9 permanent spectres

What do you mean?

Yeah, Unless they make the league exclusive mobs not go in desecrate pool, in which case you would just not use all temp minion slots to be safe. But seeing as we have to kill them then raise, I would assume they would be in desecrate

They should be fine in both, Sanctum would maybe need aggressive from feeding frenzy so they actually try to kill stuff slightly off screen, Delve they should be able to get to a decent depth but minions in general dont have the amount of versatility in defence thats needed for very deep delve(1200 depth+)

@@dconnic What would you recommend? I've enjoyed RF, totems, minions, traps, and Cyclone builds in the past.

For delve and sanctum? the best spectres to consider would be Hyrri's watch and Mindweave Sentinel as they have arguably the best waveclear among current spectres though their single target is not the best so another option would be Auto-Enforcers from Heist which have a nuke ability with a 15s cooldown, it's not the most relaible ability to hit for mobile mobs but if it does it would do alot of damage and with 9 spectres it will do a significant amount of damage, plus they do cold damage so chill/freezes should help it land.

@@dconnic what about totems, bows, traps, or cleave?

I havent played totems in awhile but I dont think you can go wrong with toxic rain or Explosive arrow ballista and Ive heard talk about Ball lightning totems but I havent played that. I wouldnt recommend melee for sanctum But if youre focusing more on Delve then Cleave of rage seems popular. As for traps if I had to say the trap that intrigues me the most would be explosive trap of shrapnel