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Yeah that's right - the lane sharing will happen regardless of which PCIe gen of SSDs that you install; even if you install a PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 SSD on the second PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot, the primary graphics card slot will still drop down to x8 mode...

Glad you found the video useful! RAM wise, do you have any potential speeds/brand in mind yet? If you'd like a peace of mind, you can always check out the QVL list for this board to see what RAMs have been tested to work fine: www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-PRO-ICE/support#support-memsup

The motherboard has a built-in WIFI module on the motherboard itself, no need for a USB WIFI stick!

Keep a lookout for the full review video for this board where I test it as part of a full PC build!

Have you decided on your processor and GPU yet?

CPU-Ryzen 9 9900x GPU-AMD, TBD, Sapphire Technology.

What graphics card are you using in your build?

Yup, if you already have a X670E/X670 motherboard, there's absolutely no reason to "upgrade" to a X870E/X870 motherboard, even though the X870E and X870 support faster DDR5 speeds too. Getting a X870E/X870 would probably be more for folks upgrading from older platforms such as AM4!

Looking at the specs sheet, both boards are largely similar, though with the Gigabyte board you mentioned, you do get one more PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot - but it comes with all that PCIe lane sharing stuff that will affect your graphics card slot's bandwidth. Personally, I'd prefer an all-white board for an all-white build, and the Gigabyte has white components too compared to the ASUS. In any case, I'd have to compare prices between both boards before making a decision!

Yeah...it's because of mandatory USB4 support, where some PCIe lanes from the CPU have to be set aside for the USB4 controller instead, resulting in lesser lanes for M.2 drives and hence this entire lane sharing situation. That said, there are some benchmarks out there that demonstrate how having your graphics card run at x8 speed might not result in thaaaat significant a performance drop - of course, your mileage may vary with the type of GPU and of course the type of game in question.

Yeap it'll work well with a 5700G!

But not white :(

The AORUS Chibi figure isn't included with the motherboard if that's what you're referring to, Gigabyte sells it separately 😅

Am5 bro

Am5.

Ryzen 7000/8000/9000 is AM5

Thanks for the kind words, glad you found the video useful! That said, your wish might come true sooner than expected - just read today that the rumour mill's pointing to a potential end-October 2024 launch for the 9800X3D 🤔 That said, I haven't had the chance to test high-speed DDR5 modules with any X870 boards just yet, so I can't really comment if the G Skills will have any compatibility issues with this mobo 😅

​@@ALKtechamazing, not so much for my wallet, but amazing to future proof the build. Cheers

Z890 runs the exact same lanes as x870e. X870 has lower overall lanes available though. X870e has 44 total pcie lanes with 24 dedicated to pice 5.0 while x870 has 36 lanes total and 24 to pcie 5.0. So no difference really.

The double digit debug LED is white in colour, you can refer to the written article here to see how it looks like when switched on, under the section "Other Features": www.alktech.co/articles/review-gigabyte-x870e-aorus-pro-ice-am5-motherboard

To be fair even the 4090 can barely use pcie 4.0 x16. X8 only drops performance by single digit fps. It's honestly not even worth worrying about at all. The PCIE bandwidth is already sufficient. If 50 series are 5.0 then I don't see x8 even really being a factor on performance.

Glad you found the video useful! The lane sharing situation seems to be more pronounced with X870E and X870 motherboards, and I suspect that this is due to the fact that AMD has made USB4 mandatory, where some CPU PCIe lanes have to be routed to the USB4 controller, leaving lesser lanes for other peripherals and connectors. That said, as @prototypep4 pointed out, while the performance drop might be negligible at times, my two cents is that it's still something to take note of, especially if I were to be caught unaware about this whole PCIe lane bifurcation situation, and be unknowingly leaving performance on the table - I'd feel worse especially if I had shelled out a good amount of cash for say, a RTX 4090 and would hence expect only the very best out of my GPU!

@ALKtech While I can appreciate the argument about leaving performance on the table, current gen is not maxing out 4.0 x16 and moving to 5.0 if it runs at x8 it'll be the same bandwidth as 4.0 x16 anyway. I don't think the 5090 is going to be such a monster to require it to gain more than even 15fps at the absolute most. For benchmarking? absolutely rip out any other drives and go for gold Me personally will be doing that just to push my overclocks as hard as I can but once I've got my numbers I'm shoving in a second drive. The performance drop will be negligible and I truly hope reviewers are responsible enough to test and show what the drop will actually be.

Yeah, you'll have to use the first Gen 5 M.2 slot (M2A_CPU) and the Gen 4 M.2 slot (M2D_SB) - populating these two slots will not result in any lane bifurcation that will cut the GPU to x8!

Hello! With this board, you won't get any lane sharing with a sound card installed on the PCIe 4.0 or PCIe 3.0 slot. However, seeing as you have three M.2 drives in your system, you will still encounter lane sharing due to the fact that two of the three PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots share lanes with the primary PCIe 5.0 x16 slot for a graphics card 😅 this means your graphics card will operate at x8 mode instead with three M.2 drives installed...

Which ASUS model are you considering? For me, price would be an important deciding factor - I have a feeling Gigabyte might be cheaper 😂

@@ALKtech For the white rog x870 yesterday, yup gigabyte is better about the price😁

​@@liekarts2936asus boards aren't all white. Just white coverings and ocb. It's still all black connectors, ram slots, accents etc. Honestly just lazy. Gigabyte know how to do the colour right.

@@prototypep4 yeah I do think it's kinda a missed opportunity that ASUS went with black connectors and hardware for their white motherboard offering - but hey, I guess there could still be folks out there who would still like some form of contrast and could be using say, standard PSUs and cables that are black in colour for their build 😂

@@liekarts2936 ah right! For the ASUS X870-A that I put out a video on, I suspect it might be a little cheaper than the Gigabyte though...this is because the Gigabyte uses the X870E chipset while the ASUS uses the pared-down X870 chipset! So it's not really a like-for-like comparison 😅

It'll be available likely from 30 September - just five/six days from now!

rumor is that these aorus boards will be out sept 30, when the embargo on reviews lifts - any comments on that?

Using a sound card in the second PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that operates at x4 mode won't affect the bandwidth of the primary PCIe slot for your GPU, but you will have to sacrifice the third M.2 slot, M.2_3, as it shares bandwidth with the said second PCIe slot!

@@ALKtech so better get an x870e or an x670e?

@@napalmarsch it really depends - how many M.2 SSDs are you intending to use in your system? Granted, X670E boards seem to have no/little instances of PCIe lane sharing; in the absence of pricing info for X870E and X870 boards, I'm guessing that X670E and X670 boards are probably gonna get cheaper and could offer better value too, but do bear in mind you won't get features like faster memory support and USB4 support. Perhaps wait till 30 Sept for pricing details to be available, before making a decision!

@@ALKtech i would like to use 3x m2 and an soundcard thats what i have with my current 11900ks and the z590

Hello, do you know the brand and model of AIO that you're currently using? If it's a newer AIO, it might come with a bracket with adjustable posts that can be tweaked to support the LGA1700 socket.

The price hasn't been made public yet, though I'm guessing it's gonna be on the pricier end of X870 motherboard offerings...

From what I've seen of other reviews out there, this board should handle a 9950X just fine, given that it has a pretty decent VRM setup!

@@ALKtech tnk u

Keep an eye out for the upcoming Intel Arrow Lake motherboards with the 800-series chipsets, I'd think mobo manufacturers would have more white variants for these new Intel boards!

@@ALKtech i hope so, thank you for making these vids:)

Yes it does! All you'll need is just a BIOS update and it'll support 14th Gen just fine!

Nope. The M.2 slots are for NVMe drives only, M.2 SATA drives are not supported!

@@ALKtech alright thanks!

Pricing info isn't available yet, though I suspect it'll be on the pricier side when compared to other brands of X870 motherboards!

So what do u expect tho? Like 400€?​@@ALKtech

Yeah, the black version is called the ROG Strix X870-F Gaming WiFi!