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BYD Atto 3 battery to home storage P7 - system running overview
summary of the home storage system now it's been up and running for a while
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BYD Atto 3 battery to home storage P6 - pack construction and BMS cell taps 2
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A bit of a description of the construction of the pack as well as more of adding wires to the bus bars on my BYD ATTO 3 battery so I can monitor it with a BMS also a summary of the frame I've made up and where I'm up to
BYD Atto 3 battery to home storage P5 - BMS cell taps
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Adding wires to the bus bars on my BYD ATTO 3 battery so I can monitor it with a BMS Sorry about the haze on the image, I'm guessing there was dirt smeared on the camera lens. Just imagine you are watching a 90s daytime soap opera
BYD Atto 3 battery to home storage P4 - battery cables and cell taps
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The next instalment of my BYD ATTO 3 battery dismantle series that needs to be renamed as it's no longer really a series about dismantling and is more of a DIY powerwall build log now.
BYD Atto 3 battery dismantle P3 - cutting busbars
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Next video in the series of me hacking apart a BYD ATTO 3 battery for use in my home storage/DIY powerwall. In this video I cut the busbars so I can change the battery from 1p126s to 9p14s. I also talk about the cooling plate and the link/ passthrough terminals on the cells
BYD Atto 3 battery contactor dismantle (long cut)
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this is the non sped up version. watch the other version unless you specifically want to see how I got something apart or are just a masochist
BYD Atto 3 battery dismantle P1.5 - Whoops
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BYD battery strip. Apparently I got a little too close to 2 conductors
BYD Atto 3 battery dismantle P2 - contactor block
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stripping apart the contactor block and BMS of a BYD ATTO 3 60kWh battery
BYD Atto 3 battery dismantle P1
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Stripping the 60kWh blade battery pack out of a BYD ATTO 3 Unfortunately my best laid plans of removing the cells for a project have been ruined due to the cells being glued into place. I'll still end up using the cells but they have to remain in the case and just be rewired to suit my needs
latching circuit for precharge
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be careful with the circuit as it relies on the operator to know how long to precharge for
plasma speaker making wood lichtenberg patterns p2
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using my plasma speaker to generate high voltage to burn lichtenberg patterns into wood to make a clock
I need trending for making garage in order to do solve EV vehicles battery problems here my country.
Olá amigo Brendon gostaria de montar uma bateria assim meu sistema solar Offgrid. Você consegue usar toda essa energia desta bateria.
Yes I can use all 60kWh but there are better batteries to do this with
Olá amigo parabéns pelo video posso converter uma bateria assim para usad em 48v sistema Offgrid.
If you plan on making a 48V battery then you should avoid the BYD battery. They are too difficult to work with.
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Seeing that giant line of BMS makes me worried. If only one of those fails, the battery will become a dead brick. And the way its constructed, repairing it is impossible. You can only hope that the scrap value is high enough to offset the price of a new pack enough, if you ever get into a situation where the battery fails.
Olá amigo, quantas células têm em uma bateria este modelo.
126 cells (all in series)
@@Brendon_M Obrigado então esse Peck 403,3v qual a capacidade da célula.
Here are all the specifications of the pack BYD Atto 3 60.5kWh pack 126S 150Ah 403V (3.2V LFP cells) 1050mm wide (1230mm including the mounting flanges). 2100mm long. 125mm tall Haven't weighed it but around 450kg is my guess
Why do you want to fully disassemble the battery. Just keep it and use a High Voltage BESS inverter. And find a way to communicate with the BMS of the battery and make a "translator" to standardized CAN messages for the HV BESS inverter.
100% agree. If I was to do it again, that would be the way I'd go
@@Brendon_M ah sorry read the rest of the comments u told that already before. :) still great setup like this and probably learned a lot....
It appears Not design for repair. Just change the whole batt like handphone or just dispose whole car if replacement is too costly.
doesnt look like these batteries are made to be serviced, too bad.
Friend, don't work on the floor, work on a table (and preferably a table that is high)
Problem is I didn't have a table that can support 500kg
I know my answer is not very kind; Sorry, my friend, if you don't like the answer, but I believe that problems don't exist, only options. I think there is always more than one way to reach any place. If there isn't a table, I would look for construction blocks or create my own table that can bear the weight. As far as I know, a wooden beam can be as strong as a metal beam
@@Brendon_M I think maybe you wanted to say that a table does not add value (it does not change anything) and that is why there is no value in investing in a table
What's the dimension of the battery pack?
I go over it in one of the other videos but - BYD Atto 3 60.5kWh pack 126S 150Ah 403V (3.2V LFP cells) 1050mm wide (1230mm including the mounting flanges). 2100mm long. 125mm tall
Now you can see why the major cost of an EV is the battery.
nice video,need a ev battery lift?
A battery table would make it a lot easier than working on the floor and using jacks and stands to get the battery out of the car
Thanks for the Video. Very Informative. Just one thing, Before taking out the battery, You must have also open the service disconnect. Where was it in Atto 3?
The Atto 3 doesn't have a service disconnect. The manual says to disconnect the 12V battery and then just unplug the HV cable from the side of the inverter stack. You then put a cover over the end of the cable that locks in place to keep it from being plugged back in or the terminals touched
Zou het niet beter zijn om een eigen bouw nieuwe batterij samen te stellen met eigen bms net als in E fietsen
Yep, in hindsight it would have been easier to just get new cells and build it up from scratch
@Brendon_M can you tell the part number of the main chip used on these boards?, looks like its a 64pin IC chip.
I'll have a closer look when I next get a chance. There's probably a close up in the P2 video but I can't remember for sure...
No numbers on them but yes; they are 64 pin ICs
@@Brendon_M hmm, looking at the BMS board (the current sensing side), it looks like there are two ICs redundant to each other, performing the current sensing and HV measurements. This architecture looks similar to NXP (refer to RD-HVBMSCT800BUN)
great, you have a LiPo toxic material bomb. Congratulations, by all means store it indoors, your insurance company should really appreciate that.
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Need a ev battery pack lifter?
Certainly make my life easier, doubt my wife would let me have one though
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Wala din pala nag bago sa BYD, tolad din sa TESLA...kala koba nag ka bentahan na sa BYD...bat kagaya rin kayo ng TESLA...
seems that the pack is designed to be replaced completely. no option to service the pack. other than that, it seems pretty efficiently designed.
Oooooohh ooooo..... this is COMPLEX.... Will take a looooong time for normal mechanics to understand this. I think the west found this battery thing requiring extremely long time to put together, hence left the Chinese do the work. You can imagine the hours used to build this battery , comes very expensive in the west as work is paid hourly
Big mistake, now China dominates the EV battery market!😅
This is why traditional carmakers are so far behind. Tesla even opensourced their patents to kickstart them!
Olá amigo obrigado pelo vídeo ficou impressionado com todos os vídeos foi uma série gostei de todos qual o seu whatsapp.
Olá amigo obrigado por compartilhar, achei fantástico toda a preparação gostaria de falar contigo qual o seu contato.
Olá amigo tenho um sistema Offgrid e uso lifepo4 gostaria de trocar experiência com você. Qual o seu contato whatsapp.
If you want to ask any questions then just do so here so that others with the same questions might also get their answers
Can't you get those plans that buy back for big $$ during peak hours... or is that some wholesale thing? It would make sense with such a huge battery.
The best buyback amount I have access to is 10¢/kWh which is just not worth it
Resumindo, bateria descartaveis, não tem manutenção.
Are you able to tell me whats under the underbody battery cover once you remove it?
Do you mean the black material attached to the battery itself? Or the plastic under trays on the car?
Black tray under car. Somehow i ran over something which punctured some holes
Well, the tray at the rear has not much under it. The tray at the front has all the connections to the battery behind it but they are all above a piece of rectangular tube so pretty well protected. Unfortunately I don't have any photos
If you did it again, would, you use another BYD battery or a Tesla one?
I'd use a different solar inverter that could take a HV battery and bypass all the trauma. I'd probably still use a BYD battery as a wrecked BYD would probably be cheaper than a wrecked Tesla
Can you share (legally) electricity with neighbors?
Not really though I guess I could throw an extension cord over the fence if they needed power in a black out. Realistically the power around here is pretty stable, we might lose power for a few hours once or twice a year at worst
@@Brendon_M It is a pitty you're not my neighbour. I also was thinking to buy the wrecked EV. I'm somewhat familiar with CAN bus but I wonder how you managed to make a control of the battery? How did you figure out what signals to send? I just wonder if I take the battery out can I charge it without doing the dismantling? Let's say if I apply required voltage to the battery 400 or something ? Dismantling seems quite involved.
This is a blade battery?? No chance to replace a bad cel??
Yes it is a blade battery but in this case the cells are welded together so unfortunately no, you can't replace a cell without specialist equipment.
Any idea where is pyro fuse on the byd atto3? Bought with airbags deployed
I know I answered you already but for completeness for others I'll repeat here. The BYD Atto 3 doesn't have a pyro fuse, after a crash it only logs fault codes that just have to be cleared with a scan tool before the car will ready up again. I had to use a proper workshop scan tool to do it, I didn't have any luck using a Bluetooth/phone APP style of scanner
@@Brendon_M I see, will try it
@@Brendon_M by proper workshop tool do you mean special for Byd only? Or decent Autel version can do it?
@@Brendon_M actually fixed it when disconnected all blown airbags and sensor on the effected side,then cleared codes . And she drove down from the trailer,yey
I used an Autel one but any reasonable ($1000+) scan tool should be able to do it
So where do you reckon pyro fuse on this byd ? I got one with blown airbags and hv battery disconnected
No pyro fuse. You just need to rest the fault codes before it will ready up. Unless you blew the main fuse in the battery pack from there being a short in the HV system
Very interesting work! 👍 To get it right: The BMS was connected to EACH cell originally (or only every second)? The Blade batteries and Teslas 4680 are worst from serviceability point of view - wich is zero. 🙈 Fortunately my Teslas have the NMC/NCA setup with 4 blocks and also CATL LFP cells. "Kind of" serviceable.
Every cell was connected to the original BMS
Good cost cut value if you could do the job as fast as you are showing it on this video. YES
Could be a really interesting video but 2 suggestions. 1. the volume of your speak is really low. I need to set the volume to max but makes other sound to hard. And 2. the pictures and clips looks like there was not a good focus or something. The video self is very nice! :) Have a nice weekend!
Yeah, I never really planned on uploading the video when I recorded it. It and the editing/voiceover was more of an afterthought
Do you still have 60 kwh in capacity ?
Yep, SoH was at 100% still. I don't use the full capacity though, max discharge is set to 85% depth of discharge but the last 15% will automatically be used for backup power in case of loss of grid so the system can actually use the whole 60kWh. This time of year the battery is only getting down to 80% and is normally fully recharged by mid morning anyway. It's not the best to keep the cells so close to full all the time but it is what it is
Do you live in Australia like me ?
Yep, Perth
I am in Brisbane, wanting to do the same thing 😊
My recommendation would be to install the battery to an inverter that can handle high voltage batteries so you don't have to mess around making up a 48V system. Just plug an EV battery into the inverter with an interface module and away you go
@@Brendon_M thank you for your videos and the time you took to explain! Are inverters like that available?? Whats the name of the phone app?
@@Brendon_M Brendan, are you sure that any battery can be charged just applying the required voltage? I suspect that it could be BMS or protection curcuit preventing doing this. Am I right?
最終的には水素が勝ちますよ。
The level of repairability is exceptionally low on this battery....wow....
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Baterai BYD dibuat begitu aman, bahkan dari para diyer😅.
Or easily recyclable.
They have a system if you google it up...
Not easy or intended to be serviced.
😅 What's the purpose of doing this guys gonna blow up his house
So basically the battery is un-repairable. Seems to me that replacing a piston in an ICE would be easier and cheaper !
I dont know. Last time I contemplated paying a garage to do that was better to buy a used or new engine. Replace one piston whats next?
@@jaaklucas1329 Let me rephrase that. "So basically the battery is un-repairable. Seems to me that replacing the entire engine in an ICE would be easier and cheaper !" If the cells are glued in then there isn't a repair path so scrap. Basically the value of a used EV is the car minus the cost of a new battery (and installation labour) which probably comes to about a dollar.
@@chrissybabe8568 Yea lm with you. Like to see an easier solution to fix a few cells in this pack. I believe Telsa can refurbish a pack.Mind you, these cars cost so little in China I guess it is what it is...
@@jaaklucas1329 I have 6 close relatives who have bought EV's (incl 2 x BYD, 1 x Tesla). I avoid any conversation that would require me to call them stupid (5 of them have degrees so they certainly aren't stupid). The only thing I can think of is that they must be what are called early adopters who have totally managed to ignore all the downsides of owning an EV including the reasons of why they are NOT ECO friendly.
@@chrissybabe8568 I only know Ebikes which Ive built and are excellent. Like Edison motors knows, an Emotor is way superior to an ICE engine...even if its run on gas like a diesel locomotive.. As far as why ICE engines have to go,try this.Drive your ICE car into your garage, leave it running, close the door and take a seat.You wont last long. Multiply that times billions of ICE engines around the world,thats the problem.
You obviously have no concept of arc flash risk. Yes you're wearing insulating gloves and an 8 cal face shield but rest of you is bare. You should be wearing at least 15 cal overalls. One day a cell will short on you and you can think about the correct ppe in the burns unit.
Wow. Looks like it's not easy to swap some batteries?
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That job should be on a work bench.