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Those are some crazy speakers. I personally fell in love with B&W N803 during my search for my first audio setup. It's slightly above my budget, so I hope to come across a good deal on the used market. Till then, I'm using a neutral sounding speaker (Driade 7) with a Rotel amplifier for my setup. :)

The sweet spot depends upon toe in. Martin Logan make suggestions on tow toe in a I have generally found their suggestions help with imaging.

I'll just take the Tannoy Arden mk1 for a much much lower price and pair with a good tube amp🎶🤑

wow. I give this review room a -6 out of 10 for acoustic suitability.

What kind of audio rack is that?

Has anybody heard and compared the 2 upgradable DACs that McIntosh makes..the DA1,found in this M49 Preamp, and the newer DA2?

Thanks for posting this informative and brutally honest audio review. I believe I may purchase this preamp based on your opinions & recommendations. I am also thinking about a Parasound P6 Preamp.

Thanks for this wonderful audio review

I use them with JBL K2 9800 it is a smashing combination🙂

If you had a choice between the 800d2 and 800d3 which would you prefer?

Shocking echo

I love B&W speaker! ❤ (803 D) You should do something about your room! I can even hear it in this video the reverbation. You might even hear it if you clap your hands i think.Thats an no go with this expensive sound gear! Awesome audio gear by the way, gefällt mir👍🏻

You can't seriously be reviewing a speakers audio quality in that room...

Serious audiophile review… yeah we used the on camera mic… enjoy.

Get gryphon amp

Get rid of the McIntosh and use a better matching amp.. McIntosh only have design and their pretty lights going for them, but the sound of McIntosh is to my ears real bad with B&W. Get a seriously big Krell and enjoy glorius sound no matter what B&W it is powering.

Did you have it on 8 or 4 ohm taps with the martin-logan s..... ? I found the 8 ohms tap to work better on the SUMMITS....

Hello, im really vlose to by some speakers!! Hope you can tell me your opinion about them, they are LUMLEY Reference 2, about 3500£ since new... Hope we will find them MASTERPIECE...

Nobody reads these comments, but if you do it would've been nice to know what cables were being used

What's a good cable the speakers? Is transparent a good cable

What do you think? 800 D3 or 802 D4? I can have them for almost the same price, the 802 D4s are a bit more expensive but they are new, the D3s are 3 years old and used. I have a room of approx. 22 m2, acoustically modified, mostly used as a home cinema, sometimes with stereo music. What is your advice?

First time on this channel, really enjoyed your thorough review! What power cords and interconnects would you recommend for best dynamic and holographic presentation? I'm also using Inakustik speaker cables ) My speakers are YG Vantage, which behave similarly to electrostatics

outstanding review! I look forward to hearing your thoughts about the 801 D4.

Very nice speakers but they cost as much as a new car.

Sound quality of the video is extremely poor.

Now The Euro being equal to the USD, shouldn't we get them for much cheaper than they used to cost? Just asking....

I heard older generation 802 series and it was sharp sounding so glad to know now sharpeness is gone!

Thanks for this review. It’s hard to find good reviews of McIntosh products. It’s easy to find advertising!

I've commented in other youTube channels featuring the Martin Logan 'Masterpiece' line. I can say from my own experiences and those that have stopped by to visit and hear for themselves, that the width of the soundstage is VERY wide in my room. 18x24x8'. Speakers are 13' apart, distance to my listening area is 20' back. The Classic 9's fill this 435 sq.ft. space completely. They are being powered by the Parasound A-21 amp which has the output recommended by ML. One of my visitors had just come from another friend's home with big Magnapans. He noted that he disliked the one seat sweet spot that was altered easily by simply moving his head! After a sample of music he chose on Qobuz, he was very surprised hearing the Classic 9's with a soundstage that was even across any of locations on the 3 seat sofa. Also impressive is how deep the speakers dive into the low frequencies. Again, I believe the room is a VERY important extension of these speakers and I am very fortunate to have lucked out here in my home. (O: Thank you for your review!

Nice review

Great video; wondering if you had an opinion about the 804D4 currently costing $14K or is it worth going up to the 803D4 costing $20K.

Room treatments!

That you for your review. I am thinking about getting this pre amp to replace my NAC 658 preamp. However I am not sure how much better it would be?

Dude your room has way too echo. All great speakers. Really consider installing some damping.

Could you please add to the video description the equipment used for testing and comparison. Amp, Dac or transport, speakers, etc. thanks.

You are clearly a Mac fan boy….you should broaden your reviews and checkout other amps in the same price category. Only then will you realize that Macs are just over priced mid-fi.

What is your point of reference for evaluating? You give Mac all these high scores meanwhile it’s NOT true hi-fi. Mac gets outed the second you A/B it with other legit high end amps like PASS Labs.

Waiting for review

people are finding these amps are pure magic and under-rated, a used 452 can fetch $7k these days, all prices went up. a 452 is basically the same as a 462 . i'd buy a used 452 and save $2500 over a 462.

I would consider treating your room.

The ARC room correction ONLY affects the powered woofers, not at all the passive electrostatic panel (thank heavens). Another point for those out of the sweet spot and who walk, dance, or roam the house: The sound energy from a line source (panel speaker) falls off much more slowly than a point source (cones and domes). That’s why you see line sources used in newer public address systems. There’s math involved that I won’t get into here. In other words, the sound from a panel fills the home with music much more evenly than your usual cone/dome speaker. And please don’t underestimate the quality of amplifier needed. Though fairly sensitive, the electrostatic panels on all Martin Logan speakers have a bear of an impedance curve, dropping around 1 ohm or less in the top octave (though I realize there’s not much energy up there). So an amplifier stable into 2 ohm loads is a must. And Class D amps with output networks don’t work well at all.

Impressive review. Thank you.

Correction, each speaker box has a total of 1000-watt Class-D amplification.

Thank you!

i am sorry but your room has zero acoustic treatment, we can listen to allot of reverberation, speaker positioning is to close to the corners...dont know how you can review speakers with such a room.

Thank you for this review. Will you review the Michi M8, as well? Would be highly appreciated.

I owned the B&W 800 D3, and I would give them a 6.5 to 7 out of ten. As with most B&W speakers the midrange is the weakness. Too smeared, and "woolly" sounding to me. I agree the treble of the diamond tweeter is exceptional.

Macintosh has a poor sound. The sound image is thick and the bass is lacking in elasticity and soft. Speaking of which, it is not a high-end sound, but a vintage sound.

That small McIntosh amp wont be able to drive 800 diamond effectively

How many shelves do these cupboards have?