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haha hell yeah lotta crossover in the weird cheap synths w/ those two styles

3-6 weren't using the 660, they were using MPCs i think, so prolly they either edited a snare sound on the sampler, or found a sound they liked somewhere. it prolly started as a 660 or 808 snare sound. w/ squeeky and other tapes using the 660, if you lower the pitch and shorten the decay, you can get it pretty snappy, but i think a lot of their sound is just running the machine SUPER loud into the tape deck so it distorts a little. a cheap hardware compressor was probably in use too, or in some cases, the tape machines have built-in compressors. also, the DR770 has a 2nd 808 snare which is MUCH closer to the 3-6 sound, but it didn't come out til 97 i think. i saw the 770 in a clip of DJ Sound tho, so i know some of those other dudes prolly used it too.

@@TheToiletZone666 That's so interesting. Thank you for the info brother

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i mention it in earlier videos, guessing you mean the ESQ1? It's not a cheaper version of it really, just a later Ensoniq keyboard called the SQ1-Plus that has an 8 track midi sequencer.

hmu on ig @mrfixmrfix i can def hook ya up

yoooo JK flesh is that dude, got those Alesis machines just because they are on the early g-flesh records lol

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wtf!! usually they are real good w/ it. hell yeah for Dealers appreciation tho. CLINTON SKELETON GANG PULL UP

shit i really got no idea bro! i saw him using the 660 in a few clips from a documentary, very possible he had a real 808 since those were cheap early on. also probably an Akai or SP12 since those were the standard for producers at the time and were also NOT a million dollars lol. maybe sometime i'll go back to his early tapes and try to see if i recognize sounds. there's also a Yamaha drum machine called the RY30 and i've heard it on some early memphis tracks

hell yeah, hope it turns up safely!!

hell yeah thank u so much bro! lolol i like outkast and jermaine dupri but otherwise memphis all the way. would be sick to do IRL collabs w ppl, i gotta move south lol nobody up here knows memphis rap

very true, that one's just a dr5 and a sampler i think. thought about breaking down a grim beat before but never attempted. i did cover COTC once but it was on a rap metal album lolol.

yoooo i think it was slap snare or shot snare or sumnn like that, towards the end of the snare sectioni believe. kick was def the 909 kick pitched down a bit and shortened. u might be talkin bout the more 808-y snare which was coming off the SR16, it's just called 'rap snare' on that machine, i think there's 'low rap snare' and ''hi rap snare'

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@@crossrecord 😤😤 let's get it! if u got raw footage i can def get summn goin

lolol no idea probably either 140 or 175 those are my favs

@@TheToiletZone666 thanks man!

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I think you can! If it's one that has a 'tape sync out,' you can get a tascam brand tape sync box that will do it. i don't know the model specifics, some of them can't do it, but the 688 can be synced to other 688s and i think some of the 4-tracks work the same. it might be hard to track down the tape sync box, is the only thing. if you want to get super lo-fi and old school, you could generate a tone with a sine wave through a whole track on each machine, then match the tone with pitch correction either digitally or manually with the pitch wheel. basically, look at some pics on ebay and figure out if the model you have/are looking to purchase has 'tape sync' written anywhere on it, then look for a manual .pdf to see if it can work w/ other machines or not.

wtf did not know that! no joke that is a top 5 memphis tape for me even tho it's not typical of the sound, i tried to track him down in 2014 or 15 tryna work with him but no luck, gonna have to relisten w/ that info in mind bc i remember being really confused by how he got some of the sounds on that tape. like at one point it sounds like he's using an oscillator like what would be used to make test tones on a big mixing console, but he used it as an instrument.

yoooo happy to hear ur havin fun w the 660! yeah, there is just somethin different about the way those machines sound, samples and plugins can only get so close. glad i could help, and hell yeah! much love from the other side of the globe 🤜🤛

never messed w/ an Akai, guess i need to start! closest thing i have is an old ESI sampler

thank u!! still experimenting w/ this process haha

they really didn't let me post it lol. instead i used a still of the unabomber cabin while i told ppl to use soulseek for my music instead of spotify

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hell yeah appreciate it!! i got a bunch of shit on spotify, tapes on bandcamp, mrfixmrfix.bandcamp.com

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yup lol it's 'creepin like a hitman'

ohh ya that makes sense on the octave layering, a lot of it was the tape rip i had of the song was sooooo bad lolol found that cleaner rip AFTER i did most of the beat

@@TheToiletZone666 Yep I figured it had to be because of that, the first one was quite muddy and slowed I could also swear one or two of the additional notes were played at different accents. Lots of little details put into the song for sure

@@theshocker2747 i almost always forget to use the accent lololol. yeah i def think it's easy to forget how much time these dudes spent on details like that, it's so easy to make a mediocre beat in FL in 20 min or something, pick a dif sound if you don't like it, etc, and once they ran the beat onto tape, there's usually no way to go back and fix it, DRs have super limited memory. not to mention 4th-gen tape rips made it harder to appreciate lol.

@@TheToiletZone666 Yea its definitely a whole different thing. And they (atleast Maceo) were doing songs within such a short time period, he had to be erasing the memory constantly lmao. Everything was basically done within 2 years, 1998-1999. Its a hell of a trip hearing the improvement, starting from Gram Afta Gram>Hallucinations>Dramatized Minded>Cursed>KuKu For Them Dollars>Cursed 2>SpringMix/Summer Mix>Mental Illusions>Black Mafia tape>Manson Maniac>Lil Sko>Heltah Skeltah

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🙏🙏🙏 very much appreciate it!!

u know, it could be, i'm way too stupid to fix a tape deck, literally destroyed two back in the day just by trying lolol. might fix it up someday but i don't really do enough 4-track recording atm to worry too much. the main issue w/ the 4-track isn't even the speed, it's that the auto-stop function tends to eat the tape 😥

🤜🤛 yooo thank you! damn, i wonder if that's what i accidentally did here lololol barely figured it out and was like 'i gotta document this' 😂

@@TheToiletZone666 it could be. I got myseld into this kind of machines like 2 years ago so i'm pretty new but that's what I found. They seem to be very sensible but i managed to sync my mpc and synths quite well. I think if you don't mind not being able to drive kicks too hot in the first take and you have other decks you can try to "saturate" the whole mix later. 🤟💪

@@jingerroot hmm might be a solid idea to invest in one of those tape sync boxes myself🤔🤔

hell yeah squarepusher and autechre too

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nah i would say not, i learned to use one when i was in prolly 4th grade, the nice ones are a lil complicated but i think it's definitely got less of a learning curve than digital recording

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yoooo check the new vid, you can do some really crazy shit w/ it! also the power supply i use is from a Rocktron guitar pedal. I was able to special order one from them for about $20.

🤯🤯 damn, i've never seen him talk about the gear he used, is the post still up?

📼📼📼hell yeah! thank u, glad it worked out haha, those things are a pain but i gotta have em for the sound

thanks! been too busy to make new vids but maybe sometime this year haha