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I’ve been using the Jim Venetos method for a while and have found success in the short game but inconsistency in the long game. Based on your videos, I incorporated the Mo Norman variant and had almost instantaneous success in the long game. It was indeed a true game changer. Thank you.

Holy crap. Thanks big guy

Funny how I'm seeing this video now because I recently had my game screwed up by a PGA Pro coach who tried to "train" me on the latest accepted swing mechanics.... The problem is that my coach was 28 years old and I am 69... I couldn't do what he wanted me to do... I gave up on the coach and did the same thing you did, I combined the Jim Venetos setup with the Moe Normal single-plane swing and my game came to life... My shot lengths went up 15% per club and my dispersion is now +/- 3%...

Good on you for putting stuff online, however I think you are missing one key on the venetos stuff. He stands over the ball turns his body and Then grips the club. I have been heavily influenced by Hogans book and he spends 16 pages on the grip! So I find Venetos very engaging and consequentialy I struggle to not take my grip before addressing the ball.Like you I am too mean to spend money on lessons - maybe I should!

Very interesting, especially since I was already tempted by Moe Norman's technique and Jim Venetos'. Anything that can reduce the variables is welcome. You should make new videos to give details, on how to avoid mistakes with this technique. For example, I have the unfortunate defect of shifting to the right (sway) during the back swing, and of tilting towards the toes, etc. Do you still use this technique with satisfaction?

Your 'combo swing' method is very helpful. It's a swing technique that allows us to execute the takeaway without overthinking. I support this method as i have watched a lot of Jim's videos...

Hey John, this is similar to what I am doing in the last year and I’m really glad for the confirmation. I am older and a right leg below the knee amputee. The main difference I see is that I drop my right foot and leg back about as much but keep my foot 90* to the target line where you flare your foot about 45*, which I will be trying. I drop the right back because I have no mobility in my ankle and therefore balance issues. The rest is pretty similar. I am hitting my driver about 240 total yds on a good one and I am 81. The big news is overall ball striking though! Thanks for sharing.

Lots of skeptics here, but I can just tell what I found. 73 years old now, was shooting in high 70's in my early sixties, and then I started to lose it. Conventional swing requires fast reflexes to make the adjustment just before impact that determines whether you hit straight, pull, or draw. I lost all consistency and that was reflected immediately in my scores going to 85 plus. The last 3 years I have been hitting 150 balls per day, searching for something that would work. At times I found various methods that appeared promising, but each resulted in me having either back, shoulder, hip, or hand issues, and therefore I discarded them. I will admit the JV system was the easiest on my body, but the amount of stillness required to be consistent..................... good luck. Guys are in the class for years and still can't break 80. So I was a little bit hesitant to try this swing method. I gained 20 yards and a consistent straight ball on all irons. Haven't hit woods yet, but I have no reason to think they would be any different. My 8 iron carries about 150 yards with it. I don't know why it works so well and there is no soreness in any part of my body. For whatever reason I don't have to be totally rock solid still to accomplish it as in the JV swing, so it truly is the easiest swing for power and consistency. All of you young guys, just wait, the conventional swing will fail you at some point. I continue to sprint every day to keep my reactions as fast as possible and I do an hour of stretching every day, but believe me, the conventional swing will fail you as it has the very best champion golfers.

I did this and it worked. I hit a ball with a 7 iron wayyy out there and it was pretty straight

Very logical, obviously works for you, you have incredible club head speed.

Do you also use Moe’s grip?

I’d be also interested to see how you handle bump & runs, pitches and chips as well.

What about ball position, can you let me know if you change club to club.

What is your swing speed? And handicap?

Pretty interesting idea. Been trying all the conventional drills for some time. Recently tried hitting the ball Moe Norman style after watching Bryson and Trump play online together. I hit the ball as solid as I ever had into a net the other day. Not on a range or course yet. Then I been watching Jim Veneto's videos today. Realized years ago I played with a very closed stance like him and used to crush the ball, which I forgot about after years of not playing. Taking lesson with someone who teaches the conventional way. My contact is bad but my swing is looking closer to what is conventional. Drilling with the bowler drill this month, which what reminded me of how I used to swing with a close stance. Seems this drill is pretty popular and some pros even used it on tour somewhat. I'm going to continue with my conventional lesson because I feel close. Knowing if I can get that swing down and also incorporate what you're showing here and Jim's swing which are both something I've kinda used with success already, then have all these down proper should only help. Jim knows how to swing all different ways as did Moe. As long as you learn them properly then it's like hitting different shots on the course as if you were going to hit a stinger into the wind or a hook around a tree etc.

How has this hybrid swing working for you on the golf course? Has it dropped your scores? It makes good sense to me.

Is you club face aimed at target?

The thousands you spent on golf lessons must of been a waste, you have absolutely no understanding of the comventional swing hence why you cant swing the club with any skill whatsoever, and youre concepts here are completely flawed, Ill give you one think though, at least you grip is somewhat decent, Youre making bad content and making fool of yourself, get off youtube

New golfer here. This is my first year. Hogan’s swing is great but I have bad timing with my hips. I also miss the ball sometimes. Looking forward to trying this at the range. What kind of grip are you using when holing the iron?

I have watched, seen, heard everything and what?!?!?!?!

Ok with irons but not with driver and woods ?

You didn’t comment on shoulder tilt since wt on frt foot is your leading shoulder tilted down etc? Randy

Thanks for the video, my friend. I have tried several combinations with JV's swing, but not this one. Will try this weekend.

Thanks for this tip.Perfect if you had a heart attach and on beta blockers and other drugs.The drugs side effects are balance issues.This helps,Art

The last comment before mine! We’ll have you seen more Norman or Jim frock Lee tracing? If you have you will probably understand that it’s not always about picture perfect swings.

can you do a face on video of this?

Video is a year old so how is your swing holding up my friend? Is it still working?

If it works for you then it is the right swing.

interesting, I've been using Marcus Edblad swing for driver, Norman for woods/hybrids and a left sided (kind of Venetos) for the scoring irons. I"ll give it a whirl!

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brilliant ! i’ve been a student of both todd graves and jim venetos. gave up on todd’s (moe norman ) swing and did JVGA swing only. i had big problem with hitting too many hooks. i did exactly what you said. stood much further back from ball like the one plain swing and then did JVGA swing. perfection! much more predictable ball flight and now i can hit my target much more consistently! thank you ! i’m went to range today and now im pumped to take it to the course ! you’re the Man!

love this idea ! i’m using jim’s swing but still having issues with too much draw/hook. i’m going to try this ! thx man!

This looked promising. I'm hitting the ball fat. All that weight on my left knee is starting to cause me pain.

Makes a whole lot of sense and it works. Scoring is better for sure.

I use Jim Veneto method, I would never attempt to swing like Moe Norman, he even said don't try and copy my swing and I don't. Keep your arms close to your body relaxed and swing! You don't have to worry about anything else as the set up dictates your swing path.

I use part of Jim's method, I stand closer to the ball and a little more open.My swing path is a little more descending but my weight is on my front side which is the key to the swing, and being still of course. My swing is much more relaxed with good ball first contact.

I wish I discovered your video a year ago. I am very consistent in my swing. Thanks for helping me enjoy this game.

Year later. How is this swing working out?

Thank so much this video. I feel the same as you about the traditional swing. I have tried every swing there is with lessons and I pretty much stay at an 85 average score. Sometimes I'm in the 70's or in the 90's but inconsistent. I have done the A swing, Stack and tilt, Moe's/Todd Graves single plane, Easiest swing, and Jim Venetos. They all have there good points. I really like Jim's closed stance and Moe's swing but I have had issues with them also. So I really think you have the correct combo here. I will try this and let you know how it goes. Again thanks for coming up with and sharing it.

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Thank mate!…works for me.

Brother! Thanks!🙏🏿

Have taught this exact application for years ! He is exactly correct !

Hahah and he goes right over the top, trail shoulder roll. Listen to Tiger, no TH-cam guys. Also, nobody swing like Venetos. Nobody wins with Venetos. Its a limited HACK system that will lead to injuries. The only thing you can use Venetos for is maybe chipping.

I've been working on Jim's preset. I'll try and extend my lead arm. Thanks, no one more consitent then MO!!!

Great video John. I’ve joined Jim’s academy and have been using it for a few months with limited success. You’re crushing the ball on every shot, which I hope I can build to. I’ve had zero success with driver with Jim’s swing. How do you do with driver? Can you post a video of that? Jim’s swing gets harder with the longer clubs for me. Interested to know how you handle it.

Easiest but it took 8 minutes to explain. Easiest means 1-2 minutes to show. 🤔🤔🤔

Can you shows us more on the feet placement

I like it ... I'll give it a try ..Thanks !!

Hi, I'm late to the party with this comment but what I have noticed is if you stop the vid at 5.01 your shoulders are open ie weight shifts but if you lead from the top with the left arm then they will stay closed and you can swing from in to out say 1 0' clock but like I said maybe I'm late to the party.😪