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I like to watch weak3n play but dude is a smite narcissist I’m sorry.

Personally I think smite needs to be like other MOBAS, imagine everything we love from dota and league, but 3rd person, with a high skill ceiling, interesting deep gameplay . Idk sounds like a win win, there is a reason those other games are substantially more popular that smite. And if smite in facts becomes more popular, that means more money for hi-rez to do amazing things with the game. Just a thought

Honestly more Smaller items that are used in mire different items is way better than what smite has now. All items on alk gods, like in early smite is better too. And what does that first dude mean? RTS mobas only have strategy and smite is action skillshot based. Like lol is way harder than smite. And skill heavier

Not enough like League yet they don’t even have no heal & shield power items and they still kinda seem like their pushing support to still be tanks we want enchanters and tank jungles

Haven't finished the video yet but I think the worst part about smite taking things from league is they take the bad parts that league players don't like big one being the bounty system shit is ass

I haven't heard anyone suggest the following: follow the money. Do conquest players generate the most revenue and is this expected to continue into Smite 2? If so, focus Smite 2 towards those players and adapt Smite 1 to the casual base. If the data shows that the casual base generates the most profit and/or HiRez is banking on the goal of having a new game launch *attract* and *retain* profitable non-conquest players then they should remove the casual modes from Smite 1 and focus Smite 2 on non-conquest modes. Follow the money to ensure profit and survival of Smite in all it's versions, anything else is just going to cause a mess and since they have Smite 1 they have the advantage of being able to focus each game towards the profit and playstyles of the less profitable group.

this is the dumbest title i ever heard

Dont you deal physical damage or magical damage in smite 2 depending on your character? You just scale on strength or intelligence. Why else would hirez say if you play strength sol you still buils magical pen

This might be a dumb idea but Ive always thought it would be great to get a speed buff or an structure dmg buff when the whole enemy team is dead or an increasing one depending on how many people is dead, I think it would make teamfigths even more rewarding and add an extra potential of a comeback since when you are loosing badly and manage to kill the whole enemy team you usually dont have enough time to make a significant comeback. Idk if Id add this on ranked but on casuals migth work great

I hate the mew shop and the way everyone can build every item

For me, the problem is that the game looks worse than Smite and less responsive.

If there is one thing hirez should do with smite 2...its still the vertically from paragon. It was great to have the jungle feel like a jungle. It dipped below and over the lanes, you'd have to watch for ganks from above and below and seeing characters literally tower diving from above was awesome.

The items and item store is NOT complicated. The human brain is capable of understanding much more complex things wtf lol

Tbh all I ask for is our abilities to mix together like Agni and kulk with a fire tornado would be dope

I commented on both of these reddit posts and as someone who has played mostly Smite, but also a bit of League, I truly don't think Smite 2 is anything close to League. The core gameplay of Smite 2 is still Smite 1. The gameplay loop is basically the exact same. As long as Smite 2 keeps the 3rd person view, lack of last hitting minions, easy to clear minion waves, 90% abilities in the game being skill shots, auto attacks that require aim, items and levels coming online relatively quickly, etc. the game will still be Smite. And so far Smite 2 is exactly this. The only way Smite 2 would be too much like League is if they turned it into a top down, click to move, point and click abilities/auto-attacks, last hitting minions to get any gold, and slowed down the pace of the game drastically. If anything, Smite 2 needs to adopt more changes from the 2 titans of the MOBA genre being League/Dota 2. These games have a great formula and I think Smite 2 could greatly benefit by taking notes. I do still think Smite 2 should try to remain what it is, but they need to make big changes in order to keep the game fresh and alive. This is especially true if they have a large focus on bringing in new players. One of the easiest and most beneficial changes Smite 2 could make that is like League/Dota is to increase to max potential of scaling in the game. Smite 2 items are awful right now and makes builds, or getting to late game, just not exciting. MOBAs are scaling games. The general gameplay is starting off very weak and then becoming a late game monster and your goal is to get there as fast as possible by farming/fighting efficiently. If all the items in Smite 2 have only 2 stats on them with negligible passives, it just doesn't make me excited to get full build.

I would vote no, a group of my friends play league and they never ever sound like they are actually having fun. Smite however i do find myself laughing and actually having fun

Strength/Int system is awesome and allows for better build diversity. It was a fun but underutilized system in Smite 1 before they removed it but now with gods like Neith they’re more clearly designing gods around the system rather than just keeping them strictly in a role. I think Smite 2 needs to find a visual design philosophy closer to Smite 1 as it is currently a bit generic looking and remove bushes. That’s what the 3rd person view is for to provide a “psuedo stealth” against people with no awareness

yes

It definitely lost its identity

If they can copy the top-down combat and make it feel quicker, and more dynamic. Give LoL more competition and see what Riot has really got

the issue i have with str int system is if you nerf something to help nerf one or two gods you end up with items like pythagorems piece got nerfed into oblivion to help with the mage solo meta which made the item practically never bought after the update and on top of that having gods like freya or chronos have a crit option could be a huge problem for balancing and whats gonna happen to items like lonos where its only available on mages/hunters which it may not be the best item but at least it was unique so are we not gonna have items like that because it looks like they are trying to make every item available on every god so if they do add it guardians will basically only be building it unless they nerf it into the ground or there are more better options in which case why it be like pythagorems piece all over again and we haven't even covered active items cause how do nerf a item that may have decent stats and a decent active where you might buy it every game because its a jack of all trates but nerfing its stats or active effect could completely ruin the item so do you leave it strong or nerf it and it never ends up being bought again. HOWEVER to play devils advocate the idea of having more gods viable in more roles is awesome and having more items available overall is a good thing and having active items is probably better then the relic system. so to conclude its a good idea IF they can make it nearly perfect but on flip side you can have it fail entirely and possibly ruin the game which would suck because at the end of the day i love smite and i dont want to see it fail.

'Written themselves into a corner' Are we a grrm observer?

Always appreciate your content and your takes on smite. I hope smite 2 does well. But im going to just switch and devote my time to learn league. I want more complexity and a better competitive scene to watch and perhaps get involved with some tournaments for fun. Im just done waiting for high rez to make smite better. Ive played smite for 7 years and I dont regret, I just wish Smite wasnt so poorly managed. Also if valves new game does well, that could harm smite and potentially steal players. Also, high rez has a good library of failed games, from lack of care. So I dont have much confidence nor want to waste more of my time playing their games. Good luck smite gamers

Yep

Yes. It's very sad to see because Smite started out with a unique niche and slowly drifted toward the low ttk bursty league bullshit over time. Smite 2 is making it more obvious with the copy & paste from league format. They may end up pulling some league players over while losing those decade-long dedicated players they had already.

Stick with the way they are going gameplay wise, change the art 100% hyper realism in video games is terrible imo

Only reason I play smite is because riot removed the dominion game mode from league, which is the smite arena equivalent. Fuck conquest/summoners rift, farming minions and jungle is for pve nerds, gimme that constant teamfight brawl with 0 downtime

I've been saying go look at Smite 1 alpha the and look where it is. Smite 2 feels better it will eventually look better. Imo. Im excited for Smite 2.

Personally smite 2 for me is just not there yet, needs far more characters, they need to start introducing at least 1 major rework with a lesser rework minimum.

I can't do the overhead camera of other MOBAs it just feels awful to me

I will never understand the complaint that conquest is the main focus or criticism. Should there be other fun game modes? Yes. But almost every moba focuses on conquest/5v5 3 lane mode. Even other multiplayer games clearly have a main focus on a specific mode.

Yep not a fan of the item shop or the strength intelligence thing like the 1st guy said, seem to be over complicating thing for no real reason and doesn't make since to me that I'm building an intelligence build on a character that one of my abilities is jus not useful at that point and I have to remember which ability scales of what Stat with all the passives and long ability descriptions I'm trying to memorize already

Just a few things to say as someone who only joined at season 10. I very much hope they don’t make every character a copy and paste of smite 1 again and everything’s very updated. Each character is a chance to make a new characters kit on a character everyone knows and loves. Imagine your nox, who I’ve heard people describe as a boring kit, having maman’s kit. This is their chance to take future ideas and throw them out without having to make new gods. More is not always better. As someone newer, playing smite with the number of gods in the game I have to learn to counter plus the amount of items I have to learn what they do is painful. Just taking their current god roster and reworking their abilities would be much nicer than adding new gods imo. Smite 2 does have some simple issues though such as lighting and audio things being just bad. I will agree there but things like Morgan’s 2 being a delayed cast is just a learning curve not a huge issue. To my friends and other more dedicated fans lots aren’t taking this as a new learning path and as a badly designed game but from my perspective it’s a new thing to learn and practice. In summary I just hope everything they do in smite 2 is a huge change after all they can always continue to change things.

I play predecessor a lot which is a league clone. They went in and just copied how league did mostly everything and I can tell you with 100% certainty smite 2 feels completely different from that game

Well, considering the camera is totally different and the isometric camera is the main reason I'll never play LoL... no. So SMITE 2 could never be like League, unless they go to that isometric camera. And so FEW MOBAs even use the 3rd person camera, that SMITE and SMITE 2 will always have that advantage over the others.

Smite 1 item restrictions is the worst part about smite. Not being able to build something because your god is annoying

The store is the only thing that really makes me want to play smite two instead of one

Hi-Rez upper management is upper trash

i i wanted a game like lol i would play lol

Tbh, this is my opinion, as long as smite stays a 3rd person moba that fills its character roster with mythological characters then it is smite, at least to me, no amount of changing the map or replacing items and mechanics can change that. That’s what smite is to me, so keep those core values and it is still smite, just with a 2 at the end.

smite 2 doubters 🤨✋️

I've said before, SMITE 2 looks like SMITE and plays like League. Change the assets and it's League 2.

When smite 1 was young you could build any item on any character as we see in smite 2. I was very sad when they changed it so personally i love that they brought that system back in smite 2

The crafting system complaint makes zero sense league has a similar system

Nobody ever seems to learn their lesson when it comes to games copying each other i stg, WoW and the legions of imitators taught us that nobody is ever gonna leave the game they invested more time in for something similar no matter how new or interesting it is, Smite 2 has yet to have that problem imo bc it’s simply different by design being based off Smite 1 but the item changes imply that this is the new direction they’re going in which worries me

I was just talking about how smite 2 doesn’t really feel smite, it’s kind of losing its identity since it is becoming more like every other moba imo.

MAKE MERLIN GREAT AGAIN (RANT) Morgana, King Arthur, and Lancelot are great now, but Merlin-arguably the most powerful Arthurian character-is severely neglected in Smite. His current design lacks creativity and fails to respect his lore. His kit is so underwhelming that it seems like anyone could come up with something better. It’s clear that whoever designed him didn’t fully understand his lore. For starters, why doesn’t Merlin have a defensive stance? Merlin can summon mythical creatures, create dimensional barriers, and cause tremors like Whitebeard from One Piece. Instead, we got a lackluster fire stance that’s redundant when there are numerous other gods with fire abilities. His fire skills are the worst among gods with fire abilities-his small flamethrower, avoidable fire on the ground, and ineffective DoT are all disappointing. Compare that to Ix Chel’s powerful Kamehameha, Vulcan’s turret, Ah Puch’s corpse explosions, and other gods with strong burst abilities. Merlin’s cooldowns are excessively long, and his sustain and burst damage are underwhelming. His only form of crowd control is a minor pull from his Void/Arcane stance’s second ability, which is just a mild inconvenience. He lacks self-defense in Smite, despite being able to put up barriers and do plenty of other things in his mythos, Merlin of seven deadly sins is an example even tho they gender swapped Merlin because LGTB agenda, but whatever im not here to talk political stuff. His ultimate is a short, localized explosion that hits twice wich again why would you give a long range ability based, squishy mage that can teleport away to safety pretty often, a melee range ultimate and a passive that boosts basic attacks, A temporary invulnerable anti-CC shield during his ultimate would be more true to his character and help him execute his otherwise weak flamethrower more safe. His ultimate is not only underwhelming but also has a long cooldown for no good reason. I’d prefer if they removed the explosion gimmick and gave it the same cooldown as Ullr’s stance switch. Merlin should be able to change stances as quickly as Ullr. He needs three distinct stances AOE Stance: For clearing minions and pressing the enemy team, with Void 1, Ice 2, and Fire 2. Burst Stance: For 1v1 fights with Fire 1, Ice 1, and Void 2. Support Stance: To help the team with a deployable barrier similar to Toth’s Glyph of Pain but with additional effects when applied allies and enemies, for example when used on allies it turns into a shield like geb does, and when used on enemies, it turns into a cubic barrier trapping the enemy inside for some amount of time. Merlin’s current passive is useless and doesn’t fit his character. Smite should give him a more fitting passive, like gaining MP5 when standing still or different passives for each stance (HP5 for support, MP5 for AOE, anti-lifesteal for burst). Considering the numerous gods with built-in lifesteal or healing, a better passive is essential. The current basic attack passive is nonsensical for an ability-based god. Enhancing his basic attacks feels like it really does not belong with Merlin, he has 8 different abilities, give him an ability passive and also you lose the passive buff for missing auto attacks or timing out wich also makes no sense since he las a limit on 3 stacks anyway, wich maybe would be useful when you run out of mana and you are forced to auto attack the enemy but no, since you have no mana, and the stacks are gon after 5 seconds, and you got no stack because cant fire abilities for the past 5 seconds because of lack of mana, is totally useless when you need it the most. The development industry seems to favor these nonsensical mechanics-why? There are many games that do nonsensical stuff like this, for example Bleach Brave Souls, they love to create a character with crazy potential, and sabotage them at the same time, they be like, "here you go, we made this strong abilities character, but we will give him 30% auto attack damage buff just because we feel like it...". Merlin is the most powerful being in Arthurian mythos, far surpassing even Arthur Pendragon with Excalibur. Smite’s current depiction of Merlin is a disgrace. (I’m not suggesting he should have all these powers, but treating him like a half-baked mage is outrageous.) For Avatar fans, Aang has powers similar to Merlin’s, like astral projection, resurrection, and barriers, so it’s doable. Merlin’s Powers: Prophecy: Foretells future events. Shapeshifting: Transforms himself and others. Teleportation: Instantly travels anywhere. Summoning: Calls upon creatures and elemental forces. Astral Projection: Projects his astral form. Telekinesis: Moves objects with his mind. Reality Manipulation: Alters reality. Resurrection: Brings people back to life. Climate Control: Controls the weather. Sleep Spells: Casts sleep spells. Potions: Skilled in potion-making. Animal Communication: Communicates with animals and birds. Merlin’s potential is immense. With proper enhancements, he could become a more captivating and powerful character in Smite. Also he needs better skins desperately, all these mages wit cosmic skins looking fabulous and flashy and Merlin cant even levitate without emotes, and also the emote stops as soon as you take damage or do any thing other than move, lame AF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Juke the nut" lmao

Maybe im getting old, but that was some crazy reaction time at 3:30 lol

This was a crazy 5-stack 🫣 that bach was nuts, gotta figure out who he is. Insane. 👀🔥