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Is It Possible to Manipulate Pulls? | Gacha Theory Discussion
Is It Possible to manipulate pulls, wishes, warps, signals, and summons?
Let's discuss this open ended topic and have fun with these theories.
Discuss these theories with us on Discord - discord.gg/vS8kdxmsmE
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Intro - 00:00
Disclaimers - 00:20
How RNG is programed in videogames - 01:14
BS Pull Theories - 03:58
Theories that MIGHT be true - 06:59
Testing Theory in Genshin - 13:23
Testing Theory in Honkai Star Rail - 15:40
Testing Theory in ZZZ - 17:40
Testing Theory in Another Eden - 18:53
Final Thoughts - 21:40
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Let's discuss this open ended topic and have fun with these theories.
Discuss these theories with us on Discord - discord.gg/vS8kdxmsmE
Wanna See Me Save HSR accounts Relics? - th-cam.com/play/PLmBcrlDKEvT_nEJSXZ3tT8bQTlK8zvQVh.html
Main Substat "Manipulation" Videos - th-cam.com/play/PLmBcrlDKEvT8reOESmhUY6MOoRCclDd90.html
Intro - 00:00
Disclaimers - 00:20
How RNG is programed in videogames - 01:14
BS Pull Theories - 03:58
Theories that MIGHT be true - 06:59
Testing Theory in Genshin - 13:23
Testing Theory in Honkai Star Rail - 15:40
Testing Theory in ZZZ - 17:40
Testing Theory in Another Eden - 18:53
Final Thoughts - 21:40
#honkaistarrail #wutheringwaves #genshinimpact #zzz #gachapulls #hsr #wuwa #gacha #hoyoverse #kurogames #anothereden #ftcgenshin
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hi, do you share the discord server for genius society as well?
@@xast3rix682 it’s in the video description
@@BigBoiPnoythank you, I ended up finding it on an earlier video already though because I swear it wasn’t showing up anywhere on my laptop but I see it on my phone now
DUDDE I DIN T UNDERSTAND A WORD U SAID AHHHHHHHHHH HELP PLZZZZ
hmmm?
@@BigBoiPnoy i tried to do it 1/3/5/7/9 mnts and every 15 sec i tune and never got double crits
@ it’s nots strictly 15 seconds…. It’s 0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 so on and so forth…. And are you clicking earlier to compensate for ping lag?…. According to your ping on the top of your screen. Stop expecting double crit too. It’s meant to get at least 1 crit. Which was the goal of the whole method.
This is awesome got almost all cr cdmg on my jinhsi relics
@@nero4195 nice
If i use VPN can i change my PC and internet IP address ? It will work in a similar way?
@@gollda2103 I’m not gonna say you can’t. VPNs might go against ToS. Cause isn’t that considered a 3rd party program?
Hi please help, i love ur vids but im still alittle confused, im from SEA Server, the best minute is 7mins for Double Crit rolls, for the seconds do i go for 07 seconds or 05 seconds
Hmm? You talking about wuwa? Have you seen the new video? I’m timing my stuff. I’m clicking earlier than the time I want. To compensate for the lag. Ping lag.
@@BigBoiPnoy yes wuwa. for sea it's X7, do i use 5 secs or 7 secs instead
@QualityTechSG no. For minutes aim for any odd number. Then for seconds aim for every 5 second section. 0,5,10,15,20 etc. that’s what I said in my most recent video about the method.
@@BigBoiPnoy tysm
2025 jan 22 . the key word if you can time your clicks at the right sec it works 75 precent of the time but it still works i done build many good God roll echcos from this thanks
@@mikeharris1929 don’t think it’ll change. It’s because wuwa is programmed in unreal engine. Which uses c++. C++ uses “time” seed for their PRNG. Usually not time alone, most likely other factors too. Basically why time was the base of the theory. Normal players won’t pay attention to this stuff. Cause they just blind roll. We just helped by showing what possibly happens when you blind roll.
Hoyo would like to know your location
@@DegenerateDuck 🤣🤣🤣🤣
TL:DW Is it possible to manipulate pulls? Technically, yes, but the time you'd spend learning how to do it would be better spent learning how to cook an egg and having a nap afterwards.
Indeed. I cook. For my wife and kid 🫡 where my money rather goes to
Yea definitely didn’t work for me
Well it’s not really a “work” kind of thing. It’s more of probability outcomes. Which is what we calculated. In the end it’s more “smart” gambling than blind gambling
Yep,I can confirm ts is real. W bro
Nice
I have been waiting for this day to arrive. I'm quite curious about this topic for a while now. Much so when I lost my 75/25 on The Herta's LC 😭
Ya I made the video to answer everyone asking if it’s possible. Cause alot of players asked. So I literally asked discord then started looking into it.
what server are you using on this account?
Cholo’s account is on the America server
@BigBoiPnoy is the RNG relic on Asia server the same as America server?
@ not exactly. It’s why we even have a string recording sheet now. Doesn’t matter what account I’m on or server. I do my test upgrades then basically adapt the situation probabilities I’m given. Time is constantly changing the PRNG seed. This isn’t the only account I fixed. My whole list has America/Asia/ and EU players
I don't think I can do what you do in this video, but I seem to understand 1 thing: 2nd line 42 and 44 ---> 24 and 22, 3rd line 41 and 44 ---> 34 and 33 Am I right?
@ correct. Same upgrade movement. I also do many test upgrades on purple relics before I proceed on main relics(enough to see probabilities)
I think the time you wish at plays a big role in pulling. I remember I pulled sparkle and aventurine around 10-11 am in the same patch and got both of them early pity + won 50/50. And in wuwa I always wish around 12-3 am and somehow always win the 50-50? While there is no way to guarantee that you’ll get it early or always win the 50/50, i think there are ways where you can up your chances of either winning the 50/50, or getting a 5 star early. This is hype content for the unemployed 🎉
Yes. Time can be a huge factor on your luck. If it’s programmed under time.
Maybe we can…
Your theory with IP addresses isn’t too far off. It’s something my community tested. Edit : maybe companies can manipulate streamer pulls. Who knows.
If your theory was proven right, there is a chance that gacha game companies* might sue you or file a lawsuit due to manipulating gacha?
Nope they can't cause I have no real proof or evidence. I show no code for each game either. So ya. They can't do anything cause I even say it's just all theories. There's No Actual Manipulation going on. Edit : Everything I Did does not go against their ToS. All I did was do things players already do mindlessly
Thank you for the new tips! I will try testing them myself. I'm monthly pass player don't play to pull any eidolon. W/L for Character 44.44% and LC 75%. The most I got is Welt E5 and Sleep Like the Dead at S5. I don't know if HoYo is trolling me or something... I know Welt-I’ve read the manga Second Eruption and Alien Space, and I play Honkai Impact 3rd. Is it because I’ve played HI3 for a long time that most of what they give me are HI3 characters like Welt or variants like Yanqing’s Light Cone and Himeko?
naw in a programming sense they can't go that far. they would have to go into your history of another game for it. and the teams for each hoyo game are seperate from each other. I'd say just try pulling from a different wifi connection or something similar. Your luck just might change
@@BigBoiPnoy Thank you
your client asking the genshin server for pulls, the server generate your pull, writes to the database and your client ask then the database for the pulls and your clients shows the new database entrys(new pulls). since the server doing the "random" stuff you cant influence it. at max what can happen is, that e.g the timestamp of the pull request is used to generated the "random" number which will result in the final pull. with that and knowing the function which generates the pull, you could calculate the outcome. but even then, after the pullgeneration, im sure some checks will go after that that you wont get too much luck. so its useless. im little bit guiessing how its exactly works but it should be similar like that.
Yep. It can be like that for a time seed. Some say it can be a combo of that, player ID, and IP address. All 3 factors. More layers can happen. Just depends on how expensive the PRNG is.
10:53 lmao maplestory CAUGHT
Bring back the memories of how bad the PRNG was on that game…. Much younger days…
Are pulls pre determined? Are 50/50s really chances? After winning 3 50/50 in a you lose on the 4th one is it pre determined? I always wonder about that
Wells. PRNG is just layered pre determined outcomes when it comes to videos games. The more layers the more it becomes “true rng simulation” same time it’s server side PRNG and we will never know unless it gets leaked.
I feel like these theories are just all superstitious stuff no?
When it comes to videos games PRNG programming. It’s not tooo unbelievable. Nothing is truely random in them. For Gacha games it’s server Side PRNG. And we will never know unless how it’s programmed gets leaked.
its like slot machines at casino. They'll let you win at times and when you win too much they reduce your win rate. Like i won 3 50/50 and even got lucky getting dupes after less than 50 pulls. After that i went to hard pity to get the next banner character.
Correct. Also players behind the programming part say that each UID has different luck each banner because of the randomized “seed” the account gets when the banner changes.
still remember box2 do viewer pull and lose 11 in a roll it might be ip address
Bet that account had better luck on their IP than box2s
There are patents online where it was found that a company would manipulate your "RNG" based on your inventory how many 5* you had on your account including the rest you spoke of. Tell me though, many industries are audited. Who audits these companies? 😅
Well. Each company is different depending on the country…. Soooo. I’m just gonna say certain regions are more easygoing when it comes to those audits. It’s still overall a business. And businesses want to make money.
Nakakahiya pinoy pa naman. Akala tuloy ng iba tanga mga pinoy.
my dude. it's just a discussion. relax pare.
lmao, hearing this dude opening his video by talking about "copium theories" and "confirmation bias" has to be the most hilarious thing ever. everything on his channel is based on copium theories and confirmation bias. i bet if you look up confirmation bias online this dudes face will show up also did this dude just act as if pulling superstitions and rituals are meant to be actual theories concerning the rng in game or why is he talking about "sacrificial lamb" and more in his "BS theories" part? dude, those are rituals not "theories", everyone knows they don't actually do anything just like rubbing a rabbits foot or whatever superstitions people might have in your country that are supposed to bring luck. so at the end those things do as much as all of your "theories"
@@crappiefisher1331 I mean. You ain’t wrong. Everything we look into no one can really confirm unless they actually programmed each gacha game themselves. In which case a leak on how the game is really programmed would be needed. I warn players early now cause players don’t read. I even say it on every sheet we make. Lols. It’s straight up silly. Edit: well I had to go down the BS theories also. Cause you best believe players online, not just you, believe in that shit.
Nah bro i dont read
@@Just_4_random_guy LOL ya not alot of gacha players do.
1:19 if you want to enjoy the game you need good echo substats
naw. it's more If you want to have an easier time in the game or don't wanna burn money into a gacha game for pulls, you need good echo substats.
You saved all wuwa plyers. Respect
maybe i did. maybe i didnt. who knows
bro, i want to try this with purple echoes, not with yellows, how can i get the purples? i mean, i am lvl 43 and my "pokedex" is lvl 23, every echos that i got is yellow, but for this experiement i´d rather use the purples u know. (sorry for my bad english).
@@miguel19892509 just complete the Pokédex first. Be patient.
@BigBoiPnoy thanks
i think gacha games have some internal black magic code in it, when you roll for something. lets say you roll for a weapon banner first, i think it may be more likely to give you the weapon in order to motivate you to get invested in a character and roll for that too. Or you have a certain amount of currency and it makes it so you wont get it in what you got all the time. New players having better odds. Or my favourite one, big spenders get increased luck, as they are likely to be more invested in the game and spread news about how good the rolling experience is and the fact they already spent a lot anyway. Now you could say its illegal or that its regulated, but it wouldnt be that hard to bypass the regulators or tip them off.
That “black magic” is that gacha company trying to milk you for money which I do say in this video 🤣
hmm randomizing the seed based on the current time, makes sense. it sounds liek woodoo magic but i got nothing to lose and the rolls you got, espcially in a row are a very low probability if chances were even.
Yep. When I do this live on stream players get baffled also.
Well i play/playd genshin HSR ZZZ in genshin my luck feeld avrage in HSR my luck was top 1% and in ZZZmy luck is so bad i quit as it was just not funn (but all 3 are hoyo games wiht the same system) So truly wonder if its all just luck
It’s luck if you don’t think about this stuff yep. You can also just think your HSR account is just “seeded” to win and call it a day. Easier to think that way.
there is a pattern to my pulls in zzz. i usually lose once at 70 to 80 pity, then i get the character at insanely low pity. for example, on ju yuan's banner i lost to koleda at 77 pity, then got ju yuan at 11. lost to s11 at 76 on jane's banner then got jane at 9. so assuming this pattern persists, i'm expecting to lose on astra yao and then get her early.
Yep you can look into it that way. Also there’s a theory in the community that if you don’t get an early 5 star before 40 pulls. You’ll most likely have to wait to 70+ pulls to see that 5 star. It sucks. But it’s true kind of. With alot of players pull history I’ve seen
the IP thing is kinda true. I always have this one static ip that I saved for star rail pull. Never lose my 50/50. Last week I just found the ip that get me double lightcone. Test it on both my account, guess what, both of em got 2 in about 60-70 pity. I got the extra step of manipulating the odd but not gonna share here. Gonna kept it for myself "wink wink"
everything you said checks out with my observation
Thoughts of the community discord. Things I agree and disagree with them on thrown into 1 video.
how would you explan than this: I got first standart char clara in underground belobog, got bronya and her lightcone on belobog, lose to bailu in xianzhou, welt on the express and recently, lose to yanqing in xianzhou (on fugue banner). With that last information I went to watch some pulls from people, first of them was a dude, who pulled fugue in penacony, he won, then I told my friend to pull fugue in penacony, she won, as well as fugue sig, then I watched other 6 players, who pulled fugue in xianzhou, and 5 of them lost to yanqing, one got welt. (Why not xianzhou? Because we never met fugue there, or smth) This is not 100% ofc, but very very sussy, and I'm seeing this type of thing in every gacha, especially in genshin it was very often, it's like your chances of getting are bigger. Also recently I won herta and her lightcone on herta's space station as well as my friend. I don't know how exactly it works ofc, but this is not okay to be that often, and I said only 10% of my observation.
also, I agree with every theory on the second list, I noticed them as well. For some inexplainable reason, when I entered my friends account, when she didn't play months I got tighnari on 77 pull, right in the next pull nahida, then one empty, and nahida again. This never was a thing in my hoyo account (genshin, hsr, zzz)
Btw, my wuwa account is extremely lucky, to the point when I got jiyan on 33, changli on 21, camellya on 22. Early wins never happend in any of my hoyo games account, except 2 ayakas in 15 pulls, after an 160~ pull garanteed ayaka, when I rolled for 1 const for rosaria, and second one on dehya banner 6 pull. These pulls were not good for me, because I didn't want ayaka const, and winning standart char feels very bad.
Your pulls for different areas can be just a coincidence. Could be quite simply an ip address combination with UID and time you guys pull. You aren’t the only one that tried that but more players have fails on that theory over wins. Ya you should try letting your friend pull for you on their computer or something. Luck might change. For your WuWa account don’t change your internet IP or times you are rolling. Save it. In theory. Your WuWa account is “lucky” where it’s at right now.
@@BigBoiPnoy yup, I'll try
I've lost every DPS 50/50 and won every support 50/50 since 2.0, and I pull for eidolons and LC... it's pain
It is super pain.
Great video <3
@@hollyone8994 thanks
Hugeee
Just build pity, I have an e1s1 Rappa f2p and now I have no jades
The king of one of the methods is here.
There is a massive audio difference between "explanation pinoy" and "livestream pinoy" which makes the video a little hard to watch. But great video and hope for more discussion videos.
@@Castona thank you and ya expect more. When I have more time of course. Sorry for the audio jumps. Also some of the footage I took it while sick… I’m almost recovered. Flu be going wild over here.
The only thing I knew is that when you don't play for like 2-3 weeks and come back to the game will increase your luck to pull 5 stars OR When you're a newbie to the game you'll probably getting 2 5 stars at most early pulls
Believable. Also activates that returner player thing for every hoyo gacha.
I'm might be biased but I have a theory if you do your pull rifght after the path roll or under 1 hour after the banner release, it will increase your chance of getting 5-stars. It happened because the sheer amount of people doing pulls at the same time, server random "Code pattern" changes so quickly it will sometimes give you multiple 5-star in a row. But, what do I know. 🤷♂🤷♂
That’s one of the theories I didn’t really talk about. It was talked about in our discord. Everyone pulling at the same time on the same day the banner is released will effect outcomes. Both bad or good for every player.
now that you've said this, 8/10 5050s i won were characters i pulled when they just came out, characters that i lost the 50 50 on took a while longer to get a 5*. different games btw, so it may have something with server things
@ yep server things. Things we will never know sadly. Best we can do is theorize
Next stop: dice manipulation
Dice manipulation. My current theory would be to be aware of your commons on your test upgrades like with relic manipulation. Figure out common movements of 5 upgrades in a row without resetting. Force an upgrade to happen on a line you want to start from. Roll the dice. The dice is the most relatable to a full all in upgrade…. I’ve seen like 50/50 of different players getting the substats they want upgraded. Others have been getting fails in to all into the substat they don’t need
I would say time has something to do with the 5* stars results. I sometimes pull in morning times and got better results. Same goes for pulling at night like around 11. Sometimes I'll lose 50/50 but it's usually an early.
@@ninthfriend3347 your internet IP might be just godly also.
every time I take a break I come back and pull the char I want. I quit for a couple months, came back and got both the herta and bronya in my first ten pull. Went and got the general too. I think activity is a thing for sure.
i think so also. so they can keep you playing
100% I've noticed inactive accounts always pull wayyy luckier, all my friends who quit and come back pull a 5 star in a 10 pull or even a single pull, it's sus af
I might be the exception to the rule. During the first year of star rail I played almost daily and only lost one 50/50 (it was early tho, like 12th pull or so). Then I had to take a break for almost 2 months due to finals and ever since I havent won a single 50/50