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I’m gonna be pulling Therta in 3.0 then saving for Phainon (or maybe not depending on Fate collab leaks). It’s gonna be tough skipping Castorice since she also looks cool, but I honestly just want to Guarantee Phainon’s Lc and maybe one (or two) eidolons.

Get Robin is the best for your account. After my advice will be complete the summon team. Sunday Robin your support just need the Aglaea o Castorice.

some recomended teams that i can see helping you clear this and future moc would be Feixiao/Topaz/March/Lingsha (until you pull robin); DHIL/Sunday/Tingyun/Gallagher (or even bronya instead of ty). Also for your acc fugue wouldn't have been a bad pull considering you have lingsha himeko and ruan mei but she not really future proof.

As an f2p that made the mistake of quitting the game for a year... My only limited 5 stars are Kafka and Robin, I'm cooked.

For me the plan is to see if i can get the herta(i already have an e1 jade randomly and having an ice dps will be nice).Wont pull her LC since ill just use Himeko's LC. Im on 50/50 and like 60 pulls away from hitting hard pity with 16K jades so far. If i lose the 50/50 on the herta then i'll stop and be all in for castorice guaranteed and hopefully enough for her weapon. If i get her then cool, still all in for castorice. I have the sunday robin huohuo comp and could go Aglaea but i do have acheron e0s1 already and the hype around catorice being a better remembrance unit than aglaea is really high. Especially with recent leaks saying she will want sunday and RMC. Anyways goodluck on your summon path, i got robin on her last rerun and she singlehandily elevated by entire account. Was finally able to max star all end game modes with her and finished my FUA team(feixiao aventurine robin Marth 7th). She truly is the honored one lol

Ignore the suggestion element in game, send a break team (HMC dps/himiko), and put Archron on second part you should clear stage 12 in 10 turns. I am dot/Nihility player only character i pull really. So I am skiping all 3.0, 3.1 as leaks saying 3.2 or 3.3 we getting a new DoT. Sunday works with Castorice.

I’m a relatively new player (started at the end of 2.3 and have never swiped). My only invested team is the feixiao fua, I got lucky getting her and then robin early too, after that I got aventurine on his rerun. I haven’t been able to clear moc 11 and 12 bc she’s my only limited dps so the other team suffers a lot, but I’m not in a rush tbh. I’m someone who pulls characters based on their design and if I like the elements they add in the story, castorice looks insane but I’ll reserve judgement until we get to the story, ik anniversary characters are special but if I had to pick for the units I’m most hyped about it’s Phainon and Cyrene just based on who they are in hi3. I have Sunday, huo2, and sparkle(I was new😭) for my other limited units, I really like big herta and aglaea but if I’m being honest, I don’t think imma get fomo from not having them, so I’ll wait and see what mydei is all about.

I used e1 robin in sunday's spot there. I hope the game is not moving to hp based character for a while lol

my main account coasted through this moc, though i can't say the same for my f2p alt. not having robin really makes side 1 feel terrible, and not having fugue makes side 2 also feel kinda terrible. for 3.0 my main focus is aglaea e0s1 + robin's e2 for my main account, for my alt i'll probably just be using my guarantee from losing on fugue to get robin on side 2. i might try for therta on my main but she's not really a must pull for me atm even with all of the buffs she received.

hey, you just earned a sub, youre so relatable for not clearing moc 😅😅 i cant 3 star floor 12 for fuck's sake which is crazy... im getting the herta and robin on 3.0 tho 😊😊

Something for u moc 12, on the first side try running bronya instead of Sunday, on the second side instead of jingliu try Sunday and Dan Heng IL, maybe it'd help?

I cleared 11 3 * But on 12 oh my i am 1 cycle off for a 3* clear and pls dont stress urself svarog is probably the worst boss in the game since he is just a pure dps check nothing more. Go pull for robin and have fun because robin is insane.

Personally I’m pulling for Herta and maybe Lingsha as well. I want to pull for Mydei bc I’m a design over meta type of person, but apparently Tribbie is gonna be another “must-pull” harmony, especially for Herta. For future amphoreus characters, I hope I get to pull for Phainon and Anaxa

11 was easy for me but moc 12 is hell for me because I can't win in 20 cycles

I’m pretty sure that the MOC 12 has a total of 5.3 million HP total, I gave up before trying

You probably would do a bit better swapping Bronya and Sunday team wise since the energy Sunday gives does nothing for Acheron, but would help out Jingliu.

I think Robin will boost you a ton tbh. She makes a huge difference for Feixiao teams, same as RM/Fugue for break teams. Also, I’m struggling hard with this moc as well! Way harder than last iteration for me for sure. I’m not touching it till I pull in 3.0. My main issue is that I seriously lack aoe damage dealers. My best team and the team that can brute force one side for me is Boothill RM Fugue Gallagher and I don’t have Jade, Acheron, Rappa or Argenti. Therefore my plan is to get The Herta in phase 1 and then grab Booty’s LC in phase 2. I think I might be able to clear this moc with her. Will try for Robin if I get lucky enough too.

My plan is The herta, I'm free to play It's the state of my account, I have a hard time finishing end game too. I have a break team with Ruan, mc, lingsha, and Firefly. That's that, only one functioning team, so I want Madam and pair her with my Mini Herta, E6 Serval or Himeko to get pass end game contents

There's probly 100 pulls but that's including achievements I think so say 90 instead

In my case, I am at 33 stars, I could get 35 stars if I wanted but I'd rather wait for TheHerta to get the full 36. I somehow managed in terms of dps with Jingyuan, Sunday, Robin, Gallaghar first side and DHIL, Sparkle, Tingyun, Fuxuan second side but I ran into a "survival" issue second side x) DHIL is a very squishy character and Fuxuan doesn't do well with dot so the bug kinda always stomps my DHIL before I can finish the fight. I can manage to survive if I replace one of the two supports with RuanMei because she helps break the enemies faster so they hit my DHIL less but I lose too much damage with RuanMei and I can't clear in 10 cycles. This Moc is definetly made with limited erudition units in mind so : Jade, Jingyuan, Rappa, TheHerta, Lingsha (I know she's abundance but she might as well be erudition if you build her with crit or break stats). My pulling plans for 3.0 as an f2p are getting TheHerta and Lingsha. I've been struggling with aoe content recently like the Monkey boss in the previous Moc, the Sunday boss in the previous Apocalyptic shadow and now the bug in this Moc 12 so Lingsha and TheHerta are exactly what I need to counter these enemies. I already have Feixiao, Boothill, Robin and SilverWolf (even tho she would be an easy skip even if I didn't have her). I have Jingyuan so I don't need Aglaea and I don't really like Jade so I'll wait for the next erudition unit that works with TheHerta. 3.1 Tribbie is a skip, Mydei is a must pull for me. I have DHIL and Ratio built but Mydei is too cool to pass up (even tho we have to think logically most of the time as f2ps to be able to continue full starring endgame, I think we should be allowed to occasionally get a character just because we like them. This is supposed to be a game after all so we can't give up on the fun aspect of things).

Yes, get robin no matter what. I would consider jiaoqiu and Acheron lc after that. Might be kinda old at this point but still a great team

Hi, im f2p player like you, i hope you get robin in next patch. Something that i already learn, if you still have stellar jade after you get robin, will be wise you pull new character especially support. If less of dps i think you can wait little bit cause phainon and castorice potensially good for you

Idk how built your Feixiao is but her, Topaz, Lingsha, and Bronya could work on the first side. For the second side I found Acheron to be pretty useful against the bugs.

My list of 5* are feixiao e0s1 robin e0s0 acheron s0s1 jiaoqiu e0s0 sunday e0s1 as a f2p my plan is to get the herta skip the rest and get castorice. something like that but I want e1 robin and DDDs so I might try pulling

Good content

no signature on acheron im so sorry for your loss

bruh a new DPS wont solve this issue, pull eidolons for your dps get e1 or s1 robin better both.

It's not your fault. The game has been going to s..t in a handbasket for a while. And now it's going at warpspeed 10. Compared to a year ago, it feels like swimming in a pool of feces and beeig pushed under by hoyo greed. Honestly, it may be the best time to jump trains.

I was able to clear with an E0S1 Acheron, E0S1 Jiaoqiu, E6 Gal and E0S0 Black Swan- with E0S0 Feixiao, E4 Moze E0S0 Aven E1S0 Robin on the bug side. Black Swan is completely optional and could be subbed with Sampo, she's just there to break the hand if Acheron gets captured. Honestly if I didn't have Jiaoqiu Acheron would've been benched months ago. Floor 12 took me 7 total cycles, with 4 of them being on Acheron's side. I invested in her so much so it's nice that she's still holding up today, but the amount of effort needed to put into Acheron compared to The Herta is a bit crazy. 90/200 crit, 4k attack, full relic bonuses, BiS support + sig...sheesh. As for 3.0 banners I'm torn between The Herta or Lingsha- I need another aoe dps but I also want a five star abudance. Lingsha could lowkey cover both of these roles since I have Fugue

I actually made a f2p account recently to try out characters I wouldn't normally get. I got lucky and got sunday in 10 pulls so im gonna go for aglaea and build the account around the new summons.

I started my f2p account on the fexiao release, got her and robin (+robins lightcone) on that patch because as a new account you get insane amounts of pulls. Then started to save..pulled aventurine on his rerun. One side of any content is safe with the fexiao/robin/march hunt/aventurine team. I battled all the fomo and now i have 44k jades, 20 tickets and another 35 i can get in the shop. I am trying to get E2 S1 Herta, so i can run her in any content. I did not bother trying to get a new character that would help me clear past moc. Because a few hundred extra jades every 2 weeks aint worth spending 14-28k jades

You got a nice pull plan bro you don’t need to feel fomo when it comes to pulling new characters I’m not gonna be the guy and say wait for reruns it’s nice to see your vid and hearing thoughts and plans about what is good for you 👍🏾

I am F2P also. Your Acheron needs more work the way I see it. She does need her sign LC to really shine - the double crimson stack is way to effective with that LC. Also her Crit Damage a bit low. I assume she is not E2, so in your team Acheron needs two nihility units to dish out more damage. I know as F2P the options are limited, but if you want to invest more into your Acheron then Jaiquio will be a good pick up until that Guineifen is good alternative. I agree with your pulling plan. You 100% need Robin, so your Feixiao team will be your best team. After Robin consider pulling Feixiao LC. I have learned that main DPS needs their sign LC to be powerful enough.

Even for a light spender this was a tough MoC 12 to get through. You'll see some f2p players proclaim to the heavens that they 0 cycle, but if you look at their account you'll see just how fortunate they were with pulls. If you lose your 50/50's more on average and had the misfortune to pick up some of the 1.x units that are dead in a ditch now (I sure did) then you're bound to be on the struggle bus. Sunday was a bit of a "fuck it, yolo" for me. I didn't want to blind pull a new meta but didn't have a solid desire beyond Castorice in the future. After this MoC I'm starting to look at patching holes in my roster. I have some strong teams lineups filled with premium units, but they cant cover all bases. Aglaea will have to wait because she won't fix any of my account shortcomings, but the herta is a distinct possibility since Jingliu is hard benched against too many targets like this trotter scenario. My first 3 star clear on 12 btw consisted of the acheron team on first half (I don't have Jiaoqiu so it's DoTcheron), and the second half was Feixiao w/ Jade/Robin - no e1 or anything in any of that. I tried other ways of doing it but this was the only one I could get there in time with.

About 110 pulls so you will reach 150. Yes you are absolutely doing the right choice skipping fugue. Same for the Herta. As you would need to get Robin for her and might risk not getting her. Robin by far is your best choice here. You could also try for e1 Robin cause she is that good. But I wouldn’t risk it. As for Castorice you have Sunday and will build the new MC so you should have a strong working team for her. Sounds brilliant

i THINK i might be pulling for the herta, idk though… *she says, with a 60-180 relic set that’s fit for the herta, S5 lvl 80 the day the cosmos fell, 12982 stellar jades,The herta’s best team already built except for jade since I HATED HER AT RELEASE and I didnt pull for her, EVERY SINGLE MATERIAL SHE NEEDS credits, boss drops, weekly bosses, talent lvl ups (ty hsr pre farm guide!)* Yea guys im not sure I think I might pull for robin

U should pull boothill with his LC. Im f2p and hes such a great break character.

hey nice to see from your perspective and hear your planning! I dunno if im gonna pull anyone on the next patch, i just today pulled firefly at 70+ pulls and it was a 5050. Thank fully i got her. I dont know who im pulling but ima save up some pulls. if its 100 pulls as you said maybe ill indulge. Im having a blast with my counter attack team of Yunli, Blade, Clara and loucha in that order right now.

Fugue is great, it helped me a lot in MOC in my second account, but honestly if you don't have break DPS, you can't take advantage of her abilities that well. I believe that later characters will benefit more from Sunday, which is why I pulled for him in my first account despite not having any summon character. I want to wait for other summon DPS. To be honest, I want Herta too, but... It's just not possible for me right now, I'm super broke. Good thing is, there's always returns. :')

its more actually. around 130 pulls for 3.0 by most estimators.

MoC is mostly a stat check. As long as you have dps with high damage potential like acheron, feixiao, firefly/boothill/rappa, and their supports, you're good for MoC. Tldr; get Robin and you win

Skipping robin rerun was my worse decision :(

I have a theory concerning Castorice and it’s like 90% sure she’ll use Sunday in her team. And that’s not because of leaks I say this. In 3.0. there’s a set that boost quantum damage, slow down the units but gives tons of crit rate to the user and it’s memosprite. Aglaea isn’t quantum and needs to be fast, so it’s not for her. Castorice is quantum rememberance according to currents leak, so if it’s true it match with this relic set. Now why would Sunday be best in slot because of this relic set in question. If Castorice ends up being slow and she has a memosprite. Only Sunday will be able to push both, and since her speed will be terrible Sunday will be a most have. I believe he will rerun along side her since they always do that. Rerunning the broken support with the unit they synergize with.

guys who should i pull i only have acheron, black swan and firefly so who should i get ?

Heh, wonder if Tibbie might powercreep Robin

I think you should skip robin, which i know may sound crazy to you and get aglaea because you already invested into sunday and she will be the most current dps with a new path thats guaranteed to be better than what came before it. You have lingsha, sunday, aglaea and maybe rmc to complete the team but either way that core 3 is going to be strong. Good call on skipping the herta, like you it feels bad but i know in the long run its going to work out. Im assuming you have an e2 acheron, if you see jiaoqiu rerun in 3.1 or 3.2, def get him, and watch out for anaxa and how that character may fit with acheron. Skip all the reruns and save. You had an interest in castorice which is intended to be a team with mydei so make sure you get both or skip as the team kinda likely will flop with one without the other. One last observation, it looks like you have less characters than you should as if you've taken a long break in 2.0-3.0 partially, either that or you have invested too much vertically into old 1.0 dps like jingliu, dan heng etc. Personally im going for aglaea and im going to skip the reruns, the herta, castorice, mydei and possibly tribbie if she turns out to be for the herta. This will hopefully set me up for 3.3+ baking 200+ pulls from 3.1 & 3.2 in turn giving me 300+ to operate with from 3.3+ Dont sweat the moc too much, the power creep on the hp / def is really obvious this time, focus on the future and not the past and present content. I had to really innovate a team to 3* using acheron team np easy 1 side and lingsha, sunday, 4* herta and jade with jade being made to carry using sunday.

Did anyone feel like this MOC was easier than the last one? I could barely get a 34/36 in the last MOC and I easily got a 35/36 this MOC.

Currently sitting on 63k jades since I haven't really been pulling since Lingsha (though I did get lucky with sunday and fugue, 30 pulls total) and my current plans are to get Aglaea and Herta. Already got Robin, Feixiao and Lingsha. Afterwards I'll skip 3.1 as well I think and get Castorice with her LC. But you're right, your account doesnt need Fugue, and you definitely need Robin. Robin is such a good investment for literally any account. As for this MoC, have been getting full stars for like half a year now but this one I am struggling with (35/36), you can tell second phase is meant for Therta.

Your plans are reasonable enough. Though I would suggest trying for the herta, after winning ur 50/50 on robin. You lack strong aoe dpses and next AS is looking very erudition centric. I don't think you need aglaea as much. I on the other hand might need both the herta and aglaea. No lightning and ice dpses. Rappa and feixiao have been carrying me pretty hard, but current moc 12 is like absolute cancer. It's like one of those stages that want one of the teams to be a little cracked to 3 star. And both of mine are like barely usable. Anyways good luck on ur pulls. Hope you win all ur 50/50s.

Your assumption is crazy good according to leaks its about 110 pulls lol