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Yeah I wouldnt recommend playing it without db as db is very strong especially with RNG on your side, DB also brings good utility and resource advantage that riders doesnt

@@obliwow I think I mess up on my opening rotation. How would you open a boss fight without breath? I've followed the Wowhead opener, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I'm not getting the burst that other classes get.

@@Mikero78 Well without your main burst ability, that will be the case mate

Activate trinket

Yeah the melee range is hard to get used to.. On sin rogue, you have short range but many more way to close gaps.. I'm finding tanks in pugs often randomly kite mobs mid-pull out of my melee range

Do I think it's better? No Do I think you can play this if you arent pushing MDI? Yes

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The affix of that week made cooldowns recover faster, however it doesnt make trinkets recover quicker so eventually they become de-synced, this week the affix rewards you differently and therefore theyre back to being synced

@obliwow ah ye, totally forgot about that. Thanks

you dont need haste for this build I have like 8% here

Razorice always on MH.

I even put it in the vid description!!

Power Torrent

Sub to twitch for the weakauras!

Thank you man! Maybe one day haha

Playable yes, competitive absolutely not. Still, if that key even remotely means something to you, not playing breath is borderline trolling, its still so much better.

Thank you!

The system will never get my hard earned pennies!!!

I find its better for keys with a lot of aoe and not much single target - horn for ST heavy dungeons and FWF for the rest

Thats quite low yeah, depends on more than just item level however

@ I'm trying to figure out what's wrong. I've tweaked stats, spec, and everything else. Are there sim examples at different ilvls I could try replicating? Not sure what else to do at this point but my dk gets obliterated by every other class I have.

/use 13 /use 14 /cast spell

Well I have 24k crit so yeah!

@@obliwow do you have coaching service?

my dk is driving me nuts

@@pablolimpias2307 Haha yes I do www.metafy.gg/@obli

So for a novice player yes, but I tend to use my hands for utility as the damage is so tiny, i am also aware of how gripping random adds might hurt the other players in the team

Just blood exclusively

Good question, no I do not see that happening, breath provides too much priority damage which is so valuable in keys as well as not being as punishing as riders. Riders might be easier to understand but its way more finicky to make the same numbers as dnd, breath macro, oblit spam

@@obliwowwhat are you using in your breath macro. I’ve equipped ovinax egg and treach transmit. I go pillar then empower then breath then treach all macrod in that order. I have all the trinkets…sacbrood, mark of khadros…and shard, but I really hate running 2 on use but sims tell me different

@@patrickbeale49 #showtooltip Breath of Sindragosa /cast Pillar of frost /cast !Breath of Sindragosa /cast Raise Dead /cast Blood Fury /cast Empower Rune Weapon /use Fleeting Tempered Potion /use 13

We have one Gorefiends grip from the bdk, my abom limb, druids vortex and we organise a lot of push backs and grips

Thank you! Not just yet! next reset!

Hi mate! Right the way talent trees are, you can customise the paths quite nicely to do with the content you play and the playstyle you have that allows your dps to shine. Cookie cutter builds are a great way of giving yourself somewhere to start and typically come from sims which play very linearly and one directional. Human gameplay can see you making mistakes, getting mechanics, all sorts of things - so with that in mind, a change I like to play with is inc runic power instead of frost strike damage as it can allow for a more fluid and less punishing gameplay style with an extra 20 rp (a twitch chatter put me onto this!) and frost strike does poor damage off the bat. But yes! I have considered a talent breakdown video yeah!

@ Thanks for the reply! I've given the extra rp talent a spin and can see how it'll help. I've just about finished all 11s and I'm trying to get some 12's done, but when I watch my vods back my Rune/KM/RP generation just looks so much slower than yours and I become starved. Being stuck at 1.2-1.5m dps obviously isn't high enough to be comfortable in a 12. If you could post some logs up in a discord or a dungeon commentary of your thought process im sure the pleb frost's like me would really appreciate it. Thanks again for the advice

@@zakaryquintyne279 Dungeon commentary video is actually a great idea! Keep your eyes on the channel and I'll get one out very soon!!

You can, but it wont be as good as breath is in keys - its just more viable than before

I'd think they'll probably leave us be now as we're in a balanced spot and all our new specs are somewhat competitive but we shall see!

Obli from Frost strike

@@obliwowlmao