- 2
- 6 700
Julie Bindel
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2018
Martina Navratilova in conversation with Julie Bindel
Martina and I chatted about feminism, lesbians, and the misogyny of transgender ideology and activism
มุมมอง: 3 273
วีดีโอ
Julie Bindel Anne Lister interview
มุมมอง 3.4K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Me being rather annoyed On Sky News about the Ann Lister plaque atrocity.
In my house everyone was always very happy when Martins took to the court. Anybody who loved tennis in the 80s was. A class act.
I'm disappointed with the Democrats not fighting to put abortion choice into law.
Total respect to both of you. Courage to speak the truth is in short supply these days. From what I can see "trans-activism" translates simply to - "misogynistic-gaslighting" - by men who can now threaten and abuse women by simply - "claiming to be one." : /
Your. The best in more ways than one Martina, we all love you !
If you don’t stand up for yourself you can’t expect others to protect you, so Very true- use your voice, once you do , it inspires like minded people to speak out more.
Martina, your biography came out when I was 14 years old. I stayed up through the night reading it. That was 1984 and it was a major help in sorting out my love life. Keep being you and thank you for speaking out then and now! Great to hear from you on this.
Martina was huge for me when I was coming out in the 80’s - I would definitely have been part of the crowd that was cheering and clapping for her at Wimbledon, now I wish I’d cheered louder 😂
The cancerous Alphabet MAFIA do not speak for the LGB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Martina and always felt it was really cool that she was out but have to be honest...I was more of a Evert and Graf fan so I fear in matches..I was rooting for them when they played Martina...and then there was Gigi...lesbians knew she is gay😉 Regarding the abortion rights...fickin' disgusting how imo American money is working at creating anti abortion marches in Europe. rying to set the clock back in the Netherlands for instance...suddenly it is supposedly an" ïssue" again when I do not now any Dutch woman who feels we need to rethink the right to abortion. Anyway..even today Martine is also an icon for actual feminists and lesbians! So kudos to her for being a patron to that newly formed Lesbian Project UK. And Kudos to you Julie and Kathleen Stock for that iniattive👍💪❤
Great to see you interview her and tell her inspired you were by her. As a kid I remember her being invincible and her reign went on for years
Get well and God bless you Martina🙏❤️
I love Martina so much! She was larger than life to me growing up. 💙
Thank you so much for posting this!!!. As a gay man, I have followed Martina and her amazing career and she continues to be an inspiration for all gay people all over the world. Apart from being the GOAT of women's tennis she stands up for people like me who don't have a voice and to have someone like Martina fighting your corner is quite remarkable!!!. It fills me with tremendous pride especially when I play tennis at my local club that everyone know that I'm a HUGE Martina fan not only for what she's done on the court but off it as well. Someone as special like Martina comes along once in a lifetime and her achievements will live long and never be forgotten. Thank you Martina for making my life and millions of others a lot better because of your courage and strength over the years and please know that you're loved and adored more than you know!!!.
🙂♀️♀️💜
This was so enjoyable until Julie tried to foist her sex negativity on MN. Hookups! Dick pics! Porn! JB should be wearing a VIctorian sun bonnet when she heads down this conversational path.
So much love and respect for Martina… I follow her on Twitter and she’s totally on point in all her observations and I love that she won’t be bullied! 💥
I think the Twitter thing is over.
Actually the move is to codify the right to abortion at the Federal level. Not the opposite. (And pls leave recycling out of it. It's quite over-rated and often counter-productive so..)
JK Rowling AND Martina - You are friends with amazing people, Julie. Amazing interview
Martina Navratilova - Great way to start a Monday morning! Thanks!
🥰🌟Great vid.
She saw herself as female, loved women, just because she examined her sexuality doesn’t mean she wanted to be a man. Read the diaries
Lesbian=female homosexual...a female that is attracted to females. Anne Lister was most definitely a homosexual therefore she was a lesbian.
WOW! Julie has really gone into BRSS bloke mode!
Julie <3
Julie Julie no one. Cares what you think your just an old man who's a biggot .
In the Handmaid's Tale series the oppressor referred to the lesbian/gay handmaid as a "gender-traitor".
Totally superb and so articulately argued. I was one of the 20,000 or so who signed the petition about Lesbian Erasure, but this wasn't enough to calm my rage. Having taught lesbian history in the 1990's, and having had Anne Lister as part of my life since 1988 when I lived in Halifax, I decided that an atrociously worded blue plaque was nothing like enough for this truly ground breaking lesbian. I have approached the Calderdale Council with a life sized sculpture proposal for Shibden Hall which I would like to sculpt. As far as I know, there are no public sculptures to any out lesbians in the UK, celebrating their lives, and with only around 3% of public statues being of named women, it's no wonder. If you would support the making of a public statue of Britain's first out lesbian, sculpted by a British lesbian please do like this Facebook page: A Public Statue of Anne Lister facebook.com/sculptoramamenec
Bindle, BRILLIANT! as usual.
You're awesome Julie.
Is gender not the performance of feminity? Did Anne Lister go around dressed in mens clothing and calling herself Bruce? No she didn't. So she conformed to the rules while loving women. So she was a Lesbian not gender non-conforming. Good job with the interview Julie!!
I'm glad to see Sky News giving the chance to people to hear other opinions. Thanks Julie <3
Beyond an INSULT !!So say all of Us -gender critical lesbians
Agree with some things you say but no blue plaques currently state people's sexuality. Oscar Wilde's plaque doesn't have gay on it. They are putting rainbow colours on now. Is it necessary to label someone as something they didn't label themselves? Why does this have to be about the 'trans agenda?' Also the word lesbian wasn't used for female homosexual then, so who knows what she would have identified as now? Why assume it would be lesbian? It might have been 'stone butch' but how do we know she wouldn't have identified as trans masculine or trans man? The way she describes her sexual activities and preferences could equally apply to any of those identities today. Norton writes: "In sexual affairs Anne prefers not to be treated overtly as a woman. Anne does not like it when Mrs Barlow touches her queer and wishes to 'do to you as you do to me'. She is 'astonished' rather than angered, but unable to explain her feelings adequately. 'This is womanizing me too much. . . . she lets me see too much that she considers me too much as a woman" and: "She feels me, etc. All which I like not. Marianna never seems to know or notice these things. She suits me better.' She and Marianna 'talked of the management my temper required. Marianna knew it well. It had its peculiarities but she did not fear. Talked of . . . my sensitiveness of anything that reminded me of my petticoats.' 'Fancying I had a penis & was intriguing with her in the downstairs water-closet at Langton before breakfast, to which she would have made no objection.' I get that people were criminalised because of their homosexuality and that should not be forgotten, but this applies to men. Women were more likely to have been othered because of overt gender non-conforming behaviour. Not everyone needs to be labelled as a sexuality.
Wilde's doesn't say gender non conforming either does it ! What a pathetic comparison. You clearly haven't been paying attention and asking a question that you believe Anne Lister didn't call herself .. do you have proof that Anne never called herself in real life a lesbian No you don't , what i suggest to you Astra the fact that she married and had a female lover suggests and implies as well as IS the epitome, and also the Act of lesbianism two women sharing a bed in the marriage is being a lesbian. You Know Lesbian means to exclude males Don't you? Otherwise she would of married a male, See the difference ?? Or are you & your disingenuous claptrap, just going on to see it in writing, being obtuse it is noted and your undermining of the damage of the tra's and trans narratives and their agenda on and off line towards Lesbians is nothing more than antagonizing. Go Away with your deconstruction analogy and your poor an inept drivel You do not and cannot able to cherry pick without context because your attempt is poor ridiculous and boring. What a exceedingly sanctimonious attempt to make any kind of argument of the fact that Anne Lister wasn't a lesbian,the mere fact that you do shows your misogyny not less your chauvinistic attitude. I'm not interested in any of what a reply you make your knee jerk reaction will be just more drivel that someone in so much in denial such as you is would or could be of any possible interest.
Anne probably never called herself a lesbian because she died in 1840 and the word lesbian didn't come in to use to mean a female homosexual until the 1900s. Yes of course she had sexual relationships with women. But you don't know that if she had been alive today where we have medical gender reassignment she might have identified as a trans man or a lesbian. Her discomfort with her femaleness (and her attraction to women) could just as easily fit the description of transman (female to male transsexual) as it could butch lesbian. You seem too angry to even understand my point.
And you don't know that she would have Vehemently rejected it either , so stop trying the trans the dead , and make it into something that it is all hypothetical , Lesbian IS What she was , as There were & is No Trans Anything , you lot make it up as you go And what would you Know about me being angry or understanding , you pathetic moron, you read words , and make assumptions , Go away and stop making up a narrative to suit the trans Bullshit No Such person as trans , you delusional Creep.saying there is doesn't make it so . Male and Females DO NOT Change into the Opposite Sex , Ever , Never Have ..
You're right I don't know, but I feel you are angry because you come out with a stream of personal attacks: 'pathetic moron', 'delusional creep', 'ridiculous and boring'. I am experiencing you as an angry person, and was just sharing that with you. You don't know that she would have rejected a trans masculine identity either, had that option been available to her. She had relationships with women - just like many trans men do before they transition. Also no one is saying she was trans - just gender non conforming, which she was. There is a pretty good evidence base in modern medicine in every western country for the existence of gender identity/ dysphoria and transition as a treatment. I'm not sure you're more qualified on that than the World Health Organisation, the Royal College of Psychiatrists or the American Psychiatric Association. You say there is 'No Such person as trans' - those more qualified and knowledgeable than you say different www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
You are just full of trans rhetoric, because you want others to be trans , emulate your gendered ideas. Gender is Bullshit , And I'm saying No , She was a lesbian, Everybody knows she was , except you and your trans allies .. You can blow fire works out of your arse and i'll never concede that, that what and who she was , was gender non conforming , or trans , because women , are not what any males says she is in any capacity .The mere fact that a woman , goes through a ceremony emulating wedding to another woman who lives with and has sex with that same woman , IS A Lesbian Act and is what Lesbians Do today even. These are The undisputed Facts Until Fuckwits like You came along and wanting to Bullshit a argument . Just Go fuck yourself , I'm Sure You'll still be disappointed .
Thank you, Julie Bindel for standing up for us.
Shero!!
Hero.
That was so well said - so concise , so clear . - thank you .
Thank you Julie. Fought all my life to be an out and proud lesbian.
Well put Julie.
Julie Bindel, we Brazilian women stand by you <3
please come to Brazil <3