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Commodore is not the only fruit
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Covering the ST, the CPC, CP/M, Sinclair QL and even pre-OSX Apples.
I’ve always took the road less traveled when it comes to Tech. I had a ZX-81 when everyone I knew had a Vic 20, I choose Amstrad CPC over C64 and pounced on the Atari ST when the world and it’s dog bought an Amiga.
This channel reflects my interests in retro tech.
I’ve always took the road less traveled when it comes to Tech. I had a ZX-81 when everyone I knew had a Vic 20, I choose Amstrad CPC over C64 and pounced on the Atari ST when the world and it’s dog bought an Amiga.
This channel reflects my interests in retro tech.
Atari ST: perfect Gotek solution!
Today we're going to install a Gotek, in an Atari ST. This particular Gotek is unique in that it has a separate breakout box that contains an OLED display, mounted on the top of the ST case.
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Was a Macintosh the best Atari Falcon upgrade?
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Is a Macintosh Performa 475 a better Falcon, than an Atari Falcon? In this video we find out. MagicMac was an Atari Emulator that ran native ST apps at 68040 speeds. We install and benchmark a performa 475 vs a stock Falcon. A full length video on Jinnee th-cam.com/video/j2-l-0HHs9E/w-d-xo.html _Contents_ 00:00 - Introduction 03:20 - MagicMac 07:35 - Benchmarks 11:00 - real word app performance...
Harlekin, a super accessory for the Atari ST
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Let's take a look at Harlekin, a power accessory for the Atari ST. Harlekin features many built in modules useful for pro as well as ordinary ST users. These include a PDA / time management tool, disk utilities, editors, debugging tools, Ram Disks and much, much, more. _chapters 00:00 - Harlekin and the file selector 02:15 - Harlekin modules 11:57 - The manager _OPL picture credits KingDaveRa a...
Latex then and now. How LaTeX worked in 1992 and 2024.
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Today were looking at the king of long form content creation on the Atari ST, that's LaTeX. We find a suitable LaTeX distribution, install it and I'll show you how LaTeX documents were created. Finally we'll have a quick look at LaTeX in the modern world. _Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:22 - Installation and first run 07:54 - LaTeX content creations 15:24 - Books and other large document handli...
Is Gemini II a Stella desktop?
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When I first got back into the Atari ST I remembered that my Favourite desktop was Gemini. However once i I installed it I got a shock! It wasn't what I remembered. This is the story of how I found the Gemini I remembered and reconnected with it once more. This is an instalment in my battle of the desktops series. _Chapters 00:00 - Introduction & Gemini II Desktop 02:31 - The file and edit menu...
Atari 400 Mini review: Worth it?
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Today we unbox and review the Atari 400Mini a tiny console replica, with 25 games. I take you over the 400 mini's features and how to load your own games onto it. _Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and unboxing the $00Mini 03:39 - First boot 04:37 - A tour of the UI and settings 07:56 - Saving state and rewinding play 09:58 - Loading games from USB 11:40 - Conclusions, should you get one?
Mount fuji, a new front end for Hatari
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Mount Fuji is a a front end for Hatari it allows you you to edit different configurations for multiple 32 bit Atari machines and to execute them easily. Fuji allow you to quickly find, see the configuration of... and launch different Hatari Systems. Fuji is open sourced under the GNU General Public license v3.0. So feel free to have at it!. Full guide and installation instructions in the video ...
USB on the Atari ST with NetUSBee
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Today we take a look at USB support on the Atari ST using the NetUSBee cartridge slot device. The USB standard was released in January 1996 , todays question is: can we use USB devices on a computer released in 1985, eleven years before the first USB devices came out? _Chapters 00:00 -Driver Installation 04:27 - Keyboard and mouse 06:42 - Printer support 09:10 - USB Storage 13:22 - a cautionary...
Getting an Atari ST on the information super highway with NetUSbee
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When the Atari ST was released in 1985, the internet was only two years old and the world wide web was a mere twinkle in eye of Tim Berners Lee. The web wouldn't come into existence until 1989 four years later. So is it possible to surf the web from a computer that predates it? That's what we're going to look into today. _Chapters_ 00:00 - Introduction 01:22 - NetUSBee basic file transfer 05:01...
Sidecart, the best Atari ST gadget ever?
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Sidecart is a cartridge, floppy and RTC emulator for the Atari ST. It can load cartridge roms and floppies from bot local SD storage and the internet. It is connected to an online database of 2100 games. In this video I take the Sidecart out for a test drive. I'll show you the features of the current version and download the next Beta release and show whats coming. _links_ Sidecart web site sid...
PI 5, best PI for Atari ST emulation?
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In this video we take a look at Atari ST, TT and Falcon emulations on the last three generations of Raspberry PI computers, the 3B Plus, the four and the five. We take a look at what can be emulated on which platform and what the limitations are. _Chapters_ 00:00 - Introduction 02:22 - Raspberry PI 3B 03:53 - Raspberry PI 4 06:24 - Raspberry PI 5 10:12 - Wrap up and conclusions
Bulky Midi32, the best Roland MT-32 clone? Let's build one
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Sponsored by PCBWAY.COM In this episode I build a Bulky MIDI-32 a Hardware Synth with real MIDI ports based on Raspberry PI and the MT32-PI project. I also show how it can be used from a real atari ST. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction 01:32 - Unboxing 02:40 - Build walk through 09:41 - Software installation and config; 12:21 - Demo and testing Black friday and christmas deals www.pcbway.com/activi...
Total Kaos - Kaos TOS and Kaos Desktop
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Today we are going to look at two products that were part of the evolution of the Magic operating system. KAOS TOS is a mega patched version of TOS 1.4, that offered tons of defect fixes and some performance improvements. KAOS Desktop was an early TOS desktop replacement written by the Authors of KAOS TOS. In this video we'll take a look over these two products and evaluate them. _Chapters_ 00:...
Taking Hatari to the Next Level: Emulating MIDI using Fluid Synth and a virtual keyboard
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Today were going to choose a software synth, arm ourselves with a sound font (or two) and make beautiful music on an Atari ST. _Links_ Arachno Sont font Download www.arachnosoft.com/main/soundfont.php _Fluid GM V3 Sound Font_ member.keymusician.com/Member/FluidR3_GM/index.html MidiKeys download flit.github.io/projects/midikeys/ _Chapters_ 00:00 - Introduction 01:59 - What is general MIDI 04:40 ...
MIDI networking and file transfer on the Atari ST
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MIDI networking and file transfer on the Atari ST
Atari, adding an Ext2 file system to MiNT with Hatari
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Atari, adding an Ext2 file system to MiNT with Hatari
Polishing mint #1 - Unix tools, usability and NeoDesk
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Polishing mint #1 - Unix tools, usability and NeoDesk
Jinnee desktop, review, installation and configuration under MiNT
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Jinnee desktop, review, installation and configuration under MiNT
Thing desktop, installation, configuration and review under MiNT
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Thing desktop, installation, configuration and review under MiNT
Ease desktop, installation, configuration and review under MiNT
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Ease desktop, installation, configuration and review under MiNT
How to install and configure MiNT in 2023
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How to install and configure MiNT in 2023
ARAnyM - Installation and benchmarking. Is it as good as I said?
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ARAnyM - Installation and benchmarking. Is it as good as I said?
Booting directly to Hatari on a Paspberry PI
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Booting directly to Hatari on a Paspberry PI
Atari ST: How to find, install and use fonts
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Atari ST: How to find, install and use fonts
Getting and using the hard drive image for my ST Zero to Hero Series
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Getting and using the hard drive image for my ST Zero to Hero Series
More Prettification and quality of life improvments, Custom Icons, AvServer and a font dialog
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More Prettification and quality of life improvments, Custom Icons, AvServer and a font dialog
ST Guide: a hyper text help system for the Atari ST
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ST Guide: a hyper text help system for the Atari ST
Good review
Great tutorial sir. I have the OLED Gotek from the same seller Jon (I met him, top bloke) but with the OLED in the drive bracket. Wish I bought this now as it's not easy peering down the right-hand side.
Hi I got lightning usb on my megast , mega ste and tt this usb hardware does support hot swap usb so I can use it, remove it and put one back and its mounted. But on netusb I only got it to work when its connected at boot can you confirm your setup supports hot swap between pc and atari
Can you share the cab setup and cab ovl you use ?
Is there a written version of this tutorial somewhere?
Unfortunately not.
This video is 10 times longer than it should be (and it should be a PDF cheat sheet anyway)
Glad you liked it!
Welcome back! Glad to see you didn't need to get a dremel out.
could you do me a copy of that ST ram disc ? ill pay you , great video lots of info for my st 1040 in a box that got packed away with rest of computers from the 80's thank you
all of the stuff on that drive and more are in the cosec collection on archive.org archive.org/details/Atari_ST_TOSEC_2012_04_23
Is it possible to mount the GOTEK as an external drive through the floppy connector?
there are other kits around that could do that, a quick eBay search shows several. two things to keep in mind 1: some are adaptors only and so you would need a separate got device. 2: they will appear as drive B and not all software runs from the B drive.
More important to note the ST will only boot from drive A, unless you modify several pins on the YM chip and connect a bootselector switch.
A clean solution! Lovely work!
And a classic 9/10 😀
Yikes! Well done! How on earth did you fit those dupont connectors through that gap? I had always assumed it needed a cut-and-resolder job.
A bit of gentle persuasion with a metal spudger. You have to be careful though, old plastic can be brittle.
At about 5 mins in your video you mention ( I think ) about using Hatari to copy the HDD drivers to a floppy (on a PC) via an external FDD. Are external FDD recognised by Hatari and Windows 10? Are there an models of external FDD to buy that you know of that will work with DD floppy disks and Hatari. Sorry if this is a bit of a Noob question, but I'm new to all of this.
To create a floppy that can be read on an st that’s created on a pc, you need a real floppy drive with low level access. So an old floppy disk drive with a ribbon cable connector. The modern usb devices don’t give low level access as they function as block devices like a usb sticks (if that makes sense)
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Thanks, I thought it had to be an internal FDD. I've just purchased Peter's Drivers but I'm having trouble downloading the 15MBAII zip file? Did you encounter any problems? In your video you mention changing the file extension to .img, but I can't download it?
There’s a better solution that’s only came out in the last few weeks, it’s called a GoDrive and means you can keep your floppy drive also
Where can I obtain these? Found nothing for the Atari. Only an Amiga floppy emulator with the same name but this was meant to be fitted on the mainboard and has a display case specially made for the A1200...
when lifting the top off an Atari ST you dont need to bend the case, to get around the floppy drive bezel you tilt it off and on. no bending needed.
If I said bend I misspoke. I ment slide
Great work. Love that top mounted display / encoder box. Also appreciate the "reverse-ability" of the path you went for installing.
Glad you enjoyed it. It was a fun little project.
Glad you enjoyed it. It was a fun little project.
Another great video from you! Great help for me on this. I've seen all your videos. I'm currently running Hatari STE at 4MB. I installed SpeedGDOS per your video and it installed fine however, it takes me to folder that has fonts and SFPD document. Not certain where to go from here to complete this. I would be grateful for any help. I'm very much a novice. Thank you!
you watch this video I replaced speedogdos with nvdi , that might help. Pimp My ST, quality of life improvements, better looks and a CLI. Oh my. th-cam.com/video/-PMGnu_MPJc/w-d-xo.html
Is that OLED display the same as the one on the BulkyMIDI-32 device? If so, you might be able to fit that inside the case now that the floppy is gone with some sort of switch?
Interesting idea. But quite a lot of pain. I’d have to solder the midi connections inside the ST. It using the bulky midi pcbs to create an external drive as a hotel B drive might work.
I bought Putnik's driver a long time ago, and I've been using it with the Ultrasatan drive. Don't remember the version, but for sure it could see multiple partitions on a card, and at the same time it allowed choosing which to boot from. The new driver lets you divide a single SD card into multiple virtual devices, to bypass 14 drives (each 512MB max) limitation of TOS. 1.01 does not install icons for hard disks on the desktop so only the C: drive is visible, but you could still install the rest of them from the GEM desktop. Windows used to have a limitation of 1 partition per removable drive, but not TOS.
Great videos ! I’m up and running thanks to you. Then I hit a snag. I loaded Centipede , played the game with no problems. Now I can’t get Hatari to stop loading it. I’ve uninstalled everything, rebooted, and when I load hatari after reinstalling. The game starts playing again. Any thoughts sir? Thanks for all your content!
If you have the floppy mounted and it has an auto folder it will auto boot. Go to the floppy settings and eject the disk. Save the config and reboot. You can access the settings via the F12 key.
looks like an interesting system
I just want to thank you for your videos, they are high quality, instructive and very useful. I downloaded your neodesk image. Here is my MEGA st with the STGA adaptor and E4000 ISA card at 1024X768 256 color. My SCSI tower has 2 SCSI II HDD, 2 CD players and a ZIP drive for file transfer with my PC. I'm having issues with neodesk and NVDI with the ISA adaptor (runs fine at the EMUTOS desktop just not NEODESK). I built a TF 536 for it and plan on using MINT (and contributing to the project) once I get it installed. Again , Thak you for the wonderful content, It's nice to se the old atari th-cam.com/video/6gTEEUbbUi0/w-d-xo.html
That’s a fantastic looking system. Totally jealous 😀
Love the breakdown of the specs of the machines. I stand to be corrected as my memory banks are a bit fuzzy, but did the ST not have a palette of 512 colours?
I would love to see a similar test with the various Amiga emulators, or maybe DOS/Windows 95. Very enjoyable video.
can u make a tutorial for the retroarch core how to setup/run games
i noticed memory wasn't the same under geneva/neodesk steem emulator, width a 4 meg st. Word Up and works did not want to load saying memlry was the problem ... is there a switch or something that i am missing?
sorry for the delay in replying. by default nidi takes a ridiculous amount of memory. check the nidi control panel tool and set the cache size to a low value: say 80k
STe initially had tos 1.6 (reported as 1.06 due to a bug) ,then 1.62 (fix for something I forget)
hi there, ok, did the same thing you did. speedogdos, neodesk and geneva. tells me the file jar____ need to be run first. neodesk wont start. help.
is the file jar10.prg in your auto folder? if not put it in there. if it is, is it set to run before Geneva and neodesk?
Yeah, but it is emulation, which is crap and not the real thing..... So, the best Falcon is still, a Falcon (with 68060, 128MB RAM etc).
that's fine if you happen to have a spare, say three thousand pound lying around :-)
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit :) Or if you were fortunate to acquire several units years ago when they were comparatively cheap. ;) Regardless, the best Falcon is still an original unit with a nice accelerator and RAM card.
I installed your image with Geneva Neodesk etc on my (real hardware) STE. I'm not sure why I don't have a neodesk control panel and can't get my accessories to show. Otherwise it's nice. Also Can Warp9 load with NVDI? Thank you for these videos and your images. I'm really enjoying having my ST up and running in a way my ST never did when I was using it in high school.
glad you having fun. in that build iirc the accessories are put in the c:\gemsys\accs folder. did you put them there?
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Yes I got them to load by , not running the ACC program at load. Why is there a control panel and neodesk cp?
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Yes, they are all in that directory. there is an acc that loads first named ACC. when I don't load it, everything works. What does it do?
@DeadCat-42 it loads accessories from an alternative folder. If it works without it. Then you’re good.
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Thank you. I built a TF 536, I'm just getting ready to test it. How do I load into the upper fast RAM?
I used to love the combo of Gemini, NVDI, MiNT, etc...
They still work well together :-)
GREAT video. neat topic. i'm just learning about the atari stuff. but this is good stuff. i had a bunch of the old macs in the day. thanks.
I have been looking for MagiCMac installer on the internet. Where did you find?
But what about an Amiga emulating a Mac Emulating an ST, now that would be interesting to see, the reason I say that is an Amiga with same processor as the Mac ran faster than an equivalent Mac.
@8BitRetroJournal di an amiga emulating a Sinclair QL emulating a zx81 for an April fools joke in recent years
I don't get why this should be called a Falcintosh. Maybe we can call it GEMintosh, but for it to be called Falcintosh it would need to be able to replace a Falcon. Which it can't. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Falcon. What made the Falcon the Falcon are its graphics and sound capabilities and its DSP. The Performa has none of it. Sure, it can run proper GEM applications but absolutely nothing that would be written for the Falcon. Or try to run ST games on it. I doubt that any commercial games will run on the Performa. Don't get me wrong, it was well known in the early 90s that the best professional Atari computer comes from Apple, but the Falcon is and was never a computer for standard applications. It can run them and it was still a significant boost from a normal ST but it's simply the wrong computer to compare it to the Performa. The Falcon has an 030 and is limited to 14MB of RAM and to a 16 Bit bus. What do you expect when you compare it to a machine that has a 040 with 25 or 50Mhz and 4-36MB of RAM running on a 32Bit bus? If there is any counterpart then it would be the Atari TT (equipped with TT RAM). (And the Performa would still be the better choice).
What you say is correct. but Falcintosh is such a wonderful pun I could not resist it:-)
Interesting video. Would have been also interesting to see the performance of full-blown 68040 equiped Performa. And what about music software (Cubase, Notator) and hardware extensions? Is it somewhere mentioned in the software documentation?
I believe that they did support cubase, but I don't imagine that the support would be 100%. the ST line with hardware MIDI built in was a beast. A musician friend of mine says the timing on the ST is rock solid. His modern gear with MIDI over usb or ethernet suffers from horrendous clock drift at times. as for hardware, I can't see any that would work,
I've uploaded the install floppy images for MultiTeX to my old blog page www.overtakenbyevents.com/MultiTex-for-the-Atari-ST-Floppy-Images/
Some interesting things about the 475. As well as being expandable to 1MB VRAM and supporting 8bit at 1152*870, they actually aren't capped at 36MB RAM, they even take 64 and 128MB simms for up to 132MB, or technically 260MB with a SIMM Saver (which won't fit in the case). Lastly and most importantly, they have a software controllable CPU clock! It was recently discovered that you can bump them up to higher speeds by poking certain registers. 33MHz is easy, 40 is possible and I've got mine to 50MHz including some hardware mods. Its a brand new discovery, so we're still improving the software.
I did see something about this very recently, that was a resistor / jumper hack. You're saying that this is a software fix? that's amazing. Do you have a link to a forum page or a blog about it?
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruitVery recent, as in last week and a half. No soldering required, purely software. TH-cam doesn't like people posting links, but my last video upload is applicable.
Does anyone know if a Mac LC II could have run an Atari ST (520 or 1040) emulator and play games at native 60800 speeds? Games that were made for the Mac (Sim City 2000, Lemmings etc) were better on the Mac. But in the late 80s / early 90s, the ST had a much wider variety of games. Particularly arcade style games that were underrepresented on the Mac like Double Dragon, Super Hang On, Gauntlet II etc).
The LC II is pretty slow but is supported. The RAM is on a 16bit bus meaning 32bit reads need two accesses. They're about 15% slower in CPU benchmarks than the 32bit RAM Mac II with a 68020 and 28% slower than the IIcx, which is also a 16MHz 68030. But there are reproduction upgrades available and if you already have the machine, no harm in trying :) Make sure you get the logic board recapped as a matter of urgency if you haven't. They leak corrosive electrolyte and destroy traces, especially in and around the sound circuit.
Oh, but in CPU performance, the LC II performs about 3.5 times faster than an 8MHz 68000 Mac, so it might be fine for running 68000 Atari stuff if there isn't too much overhead for chipset emulation.
You specifically mention games. The problem is that most games accessed the hardware at really low levels and so won't work under Magic. A well behaved GEM game might, but they were few and far between.
hmmm, what about something a little more but still very cheap like an LCIII.. 32bit, similar to the Performa.. would be a cheap Falcon..??
@@pperk97 Good point. And still has the same form factor as the LC and LC II.
Well the falcon is quite underpowered but I am surprised of how badly the performa performs (pun intended). From your real use tests it seems like the difference in performance is just on the CPU and bus speed. In the early days there was an accelerator for the falcon (mighty sonic/eagle I think) that was really cheap (but being a broke student I couldn't afford) and would give 32Mhz 030 and TT RAM to the falcon. Something like this would make your Mac seem really slow in comparison. Of course like others said it's more like a TT and less like a falcon but I get your point as well.
It's hard to explain, but it does feel so much faster. I think the 040 architecture and the 80ns video memory are key
I've always wanted to get an iMac running MagicMac to replace my old ass STe, but I was returning to university and needed a Windows PC for programming classes. Had I've known about Virtual PC, I would had held off getting a Pentium PC for school and save up more for an iMac to run both MagicMac & Virtual PC. And yes I know MagicMac is more for running serious GEM applications than games but there was also an ST emulator called NoSTalgia for the fun stuff.
I think NoSTalgia is one of the best names for a piece of software ever.
Love this so much!! I like running just the opposite...Mac OS on my Falcon (with an 060 in it). It's one way to get more late software for the software-poor Falcon. Running Warcraft II on an Atari makes me smile.
Absolutely; while the Amiga had the upper edge in terms of arcade perfect ports the Atari was king of MIDI and emulation.Hats off to specular emulation :p
Haha, yes. I'm with you on that. I wanted my Atari to show its potential. Once I'd moved on I didn't really need any of the old software, which was, for the most part, underwhelming. The fixed width font in almost every app and most programs disregard for multitasking caused by the lowest common denominator approach grated!
@@thetechnoshed well, I dont think that there was any software area where Falcon was held back by native software that you would be better of with emulated Mac, other then some games. What runs on MagicMac runs fine on Falcon under MaciC. MacOS did not have preemptive multitasking back then, Falcon had 3 chices, MagiC, MultiTOS or MiNT/FreeMiNT. And fixed font width? Majority of productivity software had option for outline/vector fonts after 1993, so what are you talking about? Yes, if you used program from 1987....
I'd bought a second hand Quadra 840av off a work colleague, then ran MagicMac on it. But it wasn't as compatible as I'd hoped so sold the Mac then used the money to buy a TT and TTM194 monitor off an advert in Atari World magazine.
Could one run FreeMiNT on a "Old World" Motorola 68k Mac? I despise MacOS versions prior to Mac OS X as they were prone to crashing due to MacOS's cooperative multitasking. I'd love a way to run a preemptive multitasking OS on an "Old World" 68k Mac
There are 68k Linux variants that run on macs :)
it's an interesting question. MagiC obviously runs, well, Magic. But since it supports the unified file system idea and it's preemptively multitasking, you can get the MiNT experience through command line tooling.
ST's also! Mind you 68K Linux started on some dodgy platform called the Amigo or something similar
Sorry, but this time I have to disagree. While MagicMac was indeed some kind of "savior" for ATARI folks and was presented even in various ST mags as one, the MagicMac was actually not a Falcon replacement. It was ST/MegaSTE/TT030 replacement. First of all Falcon can have larger VRAM then your Peforma, second no, Falcon can do more then 640x480@8bit out of the box, and with some overclock way more then that... Third, Falcon is not just pure faster ST, Falcon has much better audio system your Performa has not and does have DSP which can speed up a lot of operations that will outperform Performa with 68LC40. Fourth, adding a FPU to Falcon was fairly easy, rather cheap and almost a mandatory upgrade (I didnt know any Falcon owner who didnt have the FPU), the Performa 475 did not have this option but to be fair, you could run MagicMac on any 68030-40 Macintosh. Edit: also it is not true that ATARI abandoned Falcon one year after its release, it was abandoned before the sales started.
Adding an FPU to a Performa 475 is easy - the 68LC040 is socketed, you just unplug the LC chip and plug in the full 68040.
@@phipli you do know there was a huge price difference between MC68040 and 68882?
@@madigorfkgoogle9349 Yes but you didn't mention price :) and the video was talking about second hand. Plus you could part ex them at some places. For interest, buying from Micromac, a 68882 cost $39 and a 68040 cost $99. Expensive, but cheaper than a RAM upgrade 😂
TH-cam deleted my reply because I mentioned prices. Short answer, about 2x. But not applicable, I was just making it clear that the upgrade was possible and was often done in the second hand era.
@@phipli No, the price of 68882 was around 50UKP and 350-400UKP for 68040 in 1996, thats why Apple used much cheaper 68LC40 on budget models. Changing CPU is not same as affordable adding of FPU in socket that is already present on the Falcon mainboard. And I was referring to video, not to what was or wasnt possible. Lets see if youtube will let this pass.
So one could run a Mac on a 060 Amiga and would run Falcon the fastest
no, same as this video is a bit misleading, the Magic Mac is NOT a Falcon replacement, it is a TT030 replacement. There are apps that do use the DSP, and stock Falcon does outperforms or at least matches even a native Amiga with 68LC60 there.
It’s an interesting topic this because a lot of us had Falcons or upgraded STs and saw Atari had abandoned us. Sooner or later a decision was needed… I went with the Mac but (iirc) 1997. So I lasted a long time! :) Got a power Mac and used MagicMac a lot until I gradually replaced those programs with Mac equivalents. Stupidly sold my Falcon and TT around 2002 I think. Stupid!! Biggest regret ever as I’ll never be able to afford one again :/ Anyhow a brilliant video 👍🏻
far better than putting it in the trashbin. Recently a redditor admitted to recently throwing out his Jupiter Ace, which is worth £1,300+ now.
Yes, it's strange how a falcon which was afforable in the day, is now a lottery winners toy!
Waw, new video, instant like.
Atari St was okay in the 68000 days, but I never saw a 68030 ST here in the USA. I believe they have compatibility issues, worse than on the Mac 68030 machines with their 68000 software. Atari tragically never made it to 68040.
There was an in house prototype of a 68040 Falcon. It was in a box that was almost identical to the song ps2 cause, apparently Sony used the Atari design in their patent submissions
OK, the most Computer of the 80's based on the 68 Motorola Chip.
Where does one find the latest version of QED to run on real hardware (Atari Falcon) with NeoDesk 4? I downloaded both 68000 and 68030 images from github of 5.0.5 that are for some reason under freemint repo and they just crash on my system. I found QED that doesn't crash but it's an ancient version 3.
I got mine from here: freemint.github.io/ It's a part of MinT but should work with any TOS version. This is a great resource for major Abandonware apps (not QED) www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=32323 and this is a searchable index and download site for old shareware / freeware disks and is very useful exxosforum.co.uk/atari/PDL/FLOPPYSHOP/
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Thank you! That's exactly what I tried, but no snapshot build of 5.0.5 works on real Falcon - keep getting abend error (not using MinT) oh well .. will stick to a version from "back in the day"